That's not how Star Trek grew. It cultivated talent internally while developing themes, ideas and narratives.
Spoilers Star Trek biggest problem is Alex Kurtzman
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It grew to somewhere between poor and good enough: you won’t convince a great showrunner to work under OK producers like Kurtzman or Berman or Roddenberry.
“Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” is a very old saying. I don’t see how you’re connecting your point to the real one. No one is talking about life and death here.
Ok, but do you think it’s coincidence that it was also referenced on PIC in connection with saving lives, thus coloring one’s interpretation of people’s decision to use it on a Star Trek forum?
Regardless, my point that we should return to is this: there is no need for Star Trek to be generated if it’s only going to be “good” in the sense of churning through showrunners to keep the latest franchise investment going, eventually settling on Alex Kurtzman as a competent choice for an overseer that results in reasonably watchable TV being made. Nobody is asking for obsessive perfection, just an environment where a great writer is happy to stick around for a few years and create their own critically-acclaimed, award-winning and audience-expanding vision of Star Trek even as a first-time showrunner if necessary.
Instead, people are talking about some kind of a buffet strategy with a show like this and another show like that, I mean, is that how you change the face of television? It only happens if a series appears pretty much out of nowhere in relation to what came before, hence the notion of taking a risk and letting showrunners do what they want.
No, I would apply the phrase that in the show referenced saving lives in a different context.
I currently give Disco an A- and Picard a B. They aren’t just good enough to be on TV, they are contributing positively to the Trekverse as a whole.
I don't want Star Trek to change the face of television. Good enough is OK by me.
I'm here for entertaining television, not a genre-defining masterpiece.
Huh? Subscription digital download is the new TV. Some might say the same of TNG - that it went to 80s/90s first-run syndication instead of 60s commercial TV because even TOS didn't last long on commercial TV and only made its name in syndication.
TV changes every decade. Data actually mentioned the death of broadcast TV in "The Neutral Zone".
Not sure you read the rest of my post.
And then they watch TV news on Picard. Oops.
And everyone knows about Picard because of his "disastrous" TV interview. Even window displays were showing the interview. That's how Dahj saw it. Rafi could see it at her "hovel". So everyone except the guy working the desk at Starfleet (where I'm sure Picard was all the news) saw this interview. We have to have the moment showing Starfleet has moved on from Picard, except we also have to accept that everyone knows about that bad interview. Nothing makes any sense.
Sorry, ranting in this thread....I've stopped watching (subscription was up), so it won't happen much anymore.
Did they call it commercial television? Does it work like in the 60s?
"Hovel"? it looked pretty cool to me. What fun living in the shadow of Vasquez Rocks. A National Park. Maybe she's a park ranger in her retirement?
OMG Nooooooooooo!!!!!!
Who is going to rate each new episode an automatic "1" in the weekly poll now???
No, these displays are now transparent.
That was her term for it, not mine, hence the quotes. "I'd show you around my estate, but it's more of a hovel...".
I can keep voting 1's if you think it will help. However, I did give "The End Is The Beginning" (the episode quoted above) a two.
Probably hard to believe, but I really was giving the show a chance. I had friends over the night of the premiere and we shared a bottle of Picard wine. And believe me, I wish I did like it at all.What gives? Were you feeling charitable that week?
It's called a livestream I can do it from my phone, you can watch it on any smart device of your choosing but doesn't mean I'm making television.
His exact quote was: "I believe he means television, sir. That particular form of entertainment did not last much beyond the year two thousand forty"
Perhaps news continues to be broadcast? It makes sense, they have to share information on a massive scale somehow. Maybe they don't make sitcoms or Housewives of ____ shows anymore, but they would still have news and information broadcasts/streaming/whatever.
Alex Kurtzman probably killed it.
We've made sense of things that were far more dumb than the interview and that Ensign. From my POV? The Ensign knew exactly who Picard was, he also watched him throw Starfleet under the bus. So he gave him a bit of the "your not important enough for me to care" business.
I think @Mechanoid1 will get very lonely without you. Gotta have more than one person fighting the good fight and making a statement every week!!
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