What else would you call Remmick getting his head blown open if not gore?We did?
What else would you call Remmick getting his head blown open if not gore?We did?
They will argue that it wasn't real gore, just wait and seeWhat else would you call Remmick getting his head blown open if not gore?
What else would you call Remmick getting his head blown open if not gore?
... and we've seen one episode of PICARD with a bit of "gore" in it ...One (1) episode. Out of a 178. That would be, like, what, 0.5% of the whole series?
One (1) episode. Out of a 178. That would be, like, what, 0.5% of the whole series?
The whole utopia thing didn’t start until TNG. So that’s fine.I have been very hard on Discovery because I have not seen that slice of utopia the Gene instilled in the original series
Exactly.The whole utopia thing didn’t start until TNG. So that’s fine.
Didn't the films occasionally have a harsher expletive or two?. Didn't Data say one and the whole theatre laughed? Or am I having false memories?
The Mycelial Network, the Mirror Universe, who the Red Angel was, what the Red Signal thingies were, a colony of humans abducted in the 21st century, a planet-size (?) sentient being that gave them all its knowledge, the secret of the relation between Saru's people and the Ba'ul and a very big tardigrade.Let's say you're right, and STD really is a Star Trek series (yes, I know it's called Star Trek, I'm however not convinced, or fooled, if you like), why is it called "Discovery"? What is it they are discovering?
Are you serious? Have you never watched Star Trek?This show on the other hand is dealing with a myriad of different things, with Picard being almost a supporting role in his "own show".
And it was slowly peeled away every season of every series from season 3 on.The whole utopia thing didn’t start until TNG. So that’s fine.
... don't forget that Spock has a Step-Sister.The Mycelial Network, the Mirror Universe, who the Red Angel was, what the Red Signal thingies were, a colony of humans abducted in the 21st century, a planet-size (?) sentient being that gave them all its knowledge, the secret of the relation between Saru's people and the Ba'ul and a very big tardigrade.
According to auntie Wikipedia:I guess that explains the other negative criticism and reviews of Picard (and also of the STD) at IMDb, for example. And there's a ton of it. What do they have to gain? Clicks too?
I find it funny that the swearing and the gore, which were not entirely absent in pre-2005 Star Trek, were imposed on the franchise from without. They were not something internal to its values. When people complain about them, they are imposing a view of conservatism on Star Trek that does not entirely reflect what creators and producers would have preferred. When they say they would prefer less gore, they are saying they want violence without consequences. When they are saying they want no swearing, they are saying that they want to limit manners to form rather than intention.The most interesting part here is its use as an intensifier. The part that's unrealistic to me is that "fuck" is still a swear word 300 years from now, not that it's abso-fucking-lutely still in use. I expect it to go the way the German word "geil" (roughly: horny) went. When I was little I better not be caught saying it by my grandparents, but by now it's used to say that something is (roughly) "fucking awesome" just as often if not more often than its original meaning.
According to auntie Wikipedia:
"Fuck is a profane English-language word which often refers to the act of sexual intercourse but is also commonly used as an intensifier or to denote disdain. While its origin is obscure, it is usually considered to be first attested to around 1475."
The most interesting part here is its use as an intensifier. The part that's unrealistic to me is that "fuck" is still a swear word 300 years from now, not that it's abso-fucking-lutely still in use. I expect it to go the way the German word "geil" (roughly: horny) went. When I was little I better not be caught saying it by my grandparents, but by now it's used to say that something is (roughly) "fucking awesome" just as often if not more often than its original meaning.
The times they are a changing...So I did hear the F word the other night....wife argues they would never say than on Star Trek. It's kind of sad actually.
Yes, we did.We did?
Yes, there were.There were?
Yes, it is. It just only pushed it so far because of censorship rules.Like, for example, having characters saying "fuck" every now and then for no reason but to just utter some profanity? Yeah, that is so Star Trek.
Bullshit. As illustrated belowThe idea that words like fuck and shit will be part of the vernacular in, like, 300 hundred years from now is absolutely silly.
Somehow, this particular word has endured centuries. What is unbelievable is the idea that it will just up and vanish once 300 years have passed.The word fuck, or variations thereof, has been around since approximately the year 1475 it has shown no sign of slowing down. I wouldn't be surprised if by the cusp of the 25th century if it weren't considered a proper noun.
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