Gene’s JFK idea
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"Amanda is brutally raped by the Klingons and Sarek sacrifices his life to save Kirk and Spock."
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Pass.
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Pass.
Buuuut... A lot of folks in the Federation have warp drive. So a lot of folks should've come through unchanged -- especially around a hub planet like Earth. It shouldn't have been left to the Enterprise alone to fix it. Unless it happened to be "Federation-Wide Don't Use Warp Drive Day" and Kirk forgot the date.
Can you imagine if some new Trek show tried this? Folks would be screaming that Roddenberry would have NEVER allowed such a thing.
Like The God Thing this seems like a pretty bad idea.
Roddenberry really seems like he'd have been happier writing grindhouse porn.
Pretty Maids All in a Row says otherwise...
Has anyone actually seen that? Wish it was on Amazon Prime or Netflix. I’d give it a whirl.
Lately, I’m curious to read Roddenberry’s writing. I just bought Planet Earth and Genesis II, which I’m not expecting much from but I’m curious.
How are Andromeda and Earth II? Any good?
I didn't care for it much. It's tonally bizarre, a sex comedy about the serial murder of overly sexualized high school girls. It's very misogynistic and borderline pedophilic, and it's aged very badly. And it's just not very funny.
Remember to watch Genesis II first. Not only did it come first, but it's the weaker of the two, and it's easy to see why CBS passed on it in that form. Planet Earth is better; the writing benefits from having future Rockford Files producer Juanita Bartlett as Roddenberry's co-author, and John Saxon is as much an improvement over Alex Cord in the lead role as William Shatner was over Jeffrey Hunter on Star Trek.
Assuming you mean Earth: Final Conflict, they both start out very good and smart but deteriorate into utter inanity over time, due to a studio that cared only about cheapness rather than quality and kept firing the competent writers and pushing the stories in more lowbrow directions that they thought would sell better overseas. In the case of E:FC, the first half-season is terrific and it starts to go downhill after that. Season 2 isn't too bad, but it kills off the original lead and replaces him in an idiotic way and veers the story off in a very different direction, and beyond that it just gets sillier. Andromeda managed to be very good for a season and a half, at least writing-wise, though the production values were inadequate to the concepts. It then started to go downhill after developer Robert Hewitt Wolfe was fired midway through season 2, though most of the rest of season 2 was still generally good. Season 3 was wildly inconsistent, basically two or three separate shows alternating with each other depending on who was writing; the scripts by Zack Stentz & Ashley Edward Miller were still nearly as good as ever, but the rest was sheer awfulness. By season 4 it just wasn't the same show anymore, in large part because it had become about feeding Kevin Sorbo's ego.
Genesis II is pretty weak; Planet Earth is slightly better, because John Saxon is a better lead.
Andromeda started out pretty “meh” then got super bad. Earth: Final Conflict (Earth II was a different show) started off bad, then got super bad.
It looks like Discovery Season III will have some resonances with Andromeda. But without Sorbo.
ETA: Ninja’d by Christopher! He seems to like these better than I do.
Interesting!
thanks for the tip: I’ll watch Genesis II first.
What about Questor Tapes? Any good?
Yes, it's my favorite of Roddenberry's '70s pilot movies, largely because Gene L. Coon co-wrote it, and Robert Foxworth and Mike Farrell are a charismatic lead duo (Foxworth's stilted "android" speech takes some getting used to, though it becomes more fluid as the movie goes on). It's also unusual for a pilot in that it tells a complete story with real payoff, so that it works well as a standalone movie.
I really liked the Questor Tapes. Sorry that it didn’t go to a series.
Has anyone seen the 1977 TV movie Spectre?
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