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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"

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I'd say that the general public probably know more bits from TOS than TNG, but they also probably can't tell the shows apart. "I like the guy with the ears. Is that the same show as the guy with the butt on his head?"
Next generation, so Data is Spock's kid, right?
 
but most of those were characters with no real back story glorified extras
Unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond our control, that is what Icheb has been relegated to.
Very much like the way David was disposed of during the Genesis Incident.

Such is life in the Star Trek Universe.
 
Unfortunately, due to circumstances beyond our control, that is what Icheb has been relegated to.
Very much like the way David was disposed of during the Genesis Incident.
That was dumb also and had no real build up and i have everyright to complain about a bad decison thats out of my control
 
but most of those were characters with no real back story glorified extras
I never get this. They are supposed to be humans having real human experiences. It's still horrific.

Ok, how about Tasha Yar's backstory of her mom being killed and rape gangs a threat?

Not horrible enough? How about O'Brien being punished by imprisonment, where he becomes so paranoid he kills his friend?

Trek is full of darkness. Them being unnamed characters doesn't make it less dark. It makes it worse for me.
 
... and in the last ten years what form of Trek has been most in the public eye...
Kirk, Spock, Dr. McCoy and Scotty ...
New actors playing representations of FIFTY YEAR OLD Trek Characters that have become Icons in modern culture.

Picard/TNG is just now starting to attain that prestige, it remains to be seen if it is able to achieve a similar status.

The reboot movies were subject to diminishing returns and have already largely been forgotten in a pop cultural landscape that movies faster and faster every day. Not a day goes by where there isn't a new movie, a new hit show, a new nostalgia-baiting reboot...

Picard won't get much of a foothold for much of the same reason. It's frankly not good enough to cut through the noise.

The nostalgia factor is high, but the quality isn't high enough to truly make a lasting impact.
 
I never get this. They are supposed to be humans having real human experiences. It's still horrific.

Ok, how about Tasha Yar's backstory of her mom being killed and rape gangs a threat?

Not horrible enough? How about O'Brien being punished by imprisonment, where he becomes so paranoid he kills his friend?

Trek is full of darkness. Them being unnamed characters doesn't make it less dark. It makes it worse for me.
yeah but they alot of that the either never show or it has a point to them this is just classless this is nothing buch fridging to get some shock
 
You go into Star Trek? You're not expecting the very first fucking scene in an episode being a character getting his eye pulled out of his socket and seeing the optic nerve snipped like a wire.

No, i suppose not. But so what? Bad things happen to people sometimes in the Star Trek universe, just like in this one, although somewhat less frequently. If there's a particular reason why this stuff has to be hidden offstage in Trek, I don't know what it is.
Hey! Targeted ads being broadcast on a spaceship, and one of them for "Snake Weed" and of course the ad has a Rastafarian-looking alien wearing 1960's/'70s Earth beatnik clothes acting like the stereotypical stoner. Because, yeah, that makes perfect fucking sense.

A 21st-century audience has to be able to get the visual references. Just think of it as the output of a visual universal translator.

There was also just something unnecessarily "gruesome" about the death of Maddox. Granted not as bad as Icheb, but there way it was shot and portrayed was just a bit uncalled for. I mean couldn't he just have clutched his chest, gasped for breath a few times and then just fallen limp?

Weaker scene, but he could have. Why should he have?
 
That was dumb also and had no real build up and i have every right to complain about a bad decision that's out of my control
I didn't say you shouldn't, I was merely pointing out the folly of becoming too attached to minor characters in the Trek Universe.
I too was very disappointed with my namesake (David) being killed, but I also saw the value of the powerful significance in how it affected the main character of the story.
 
I didn't say you shouldn't, I was merely pointing out the folly of becoming too attached to minor characters in the Trek Universe.
I too was very disappointed with my namesake (David) being killed, but I also saw the value of the powerful significance in how it affected the main character of the story.
3 movies later
 
I didn't say you shouldn't, I was merely pointing out the folly of becoming too attached to minor characters in the Trek Universe.
I too was very disappointed with my namesake (David) being killed, but I also saw the value of the powerful significance in how it affected the main character of the story.
That's a horrifying scene. I skip that because it will make me cry.
 
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