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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x05 - "Stardust City Rag"
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Eh, it depends.
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How 'Star Trek: Picard' Director Jonathan Frakes Crafted That Surprising Scene
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...k-creator-gene-roddenberry-would-hate-1280569
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...k-creator-gene-roddenberry-would-hate-1280569
thanks for the link. Holy Shit! there's plans for a Disney+ Mighty Ducks series with Emilio Estevez? Count me in!
And yet fifty years later The Classic Series Merchandise still out sells every other iteration of Trek hands down.
Yes, it is old, but hardly as down & out as you would have people believe.
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This is where I largely land now. Trek was supposed to have at least some level of optimism, hope and brightness to it. Now it just feels like pretty much every other genre show on TV. Dark, depressing and with no hope. Look, I like and watch The Walking Dead and it's hardly filled with "hope and optimism" considering every batch of seasons has to have a lead villain centered in it who's a sociopath who loves to slaughter people but you go into a show called "The Walking Dead" centered around a zombie apocalypse you kind of expect you're going to get some gore and misery.
You go into Star Trek? You're not expecting the very first fucking scene in an episode being a character getting his eye pulled out of his socket and seeing the optic nerve snipped like a wire.
Go into The Walking Dead you kind of expect a character is going to "learn a lesson" of humanity or humility or something and then see him turn around and throw that all out the window and kill someone because it's for a general "greater need."
Go into Star Trek you don't expect to see a hopeful scene between two beloved characters sharing in a common trauma and both admit they're both fighting to regain all of the humanity.... And then one of those characters immediately turns around and tells another character she just said that to ease the mind of the other and goes in for a brutal kill.
It's just ugly and depressing and like every other damn show on TV.
That great moment between Picard and Seven is pissed on in the very next damn scene.
I started off on this series mostly "Meh" but mostly wanting to watch it because of Stewart. But now, he's the only reason why I'm sticking around. I'm not interested in the story, don't care about (or really even know) the other characters and... Well that's about it. The look, the setting and the overall tone of this series is just ugly.
Hey! Targeted ads being broadcast on a spaceship, and one of them for "Snake Weed" and of course the ad has a Rastafarian-looking alien wearing 1960's/'70s Earth beatnik clothes acting like the stereotypical stoner. Because, yeah, that makes perfect fucking sense.
There was also just something unnecessarily "gruesome" about the death of Maddox. Granted not as bad as Icheb, but there way it was shot and portrayed was just a bit uncalled for. I mean couldn't he just have clutched his chest, gasped for breath a few times and then just fallen limp?
What am I even watching here?
Yeah i usually click off when they start getting homophobic even if i agree with some of their points
Personally, I go into Trek to see people overcome. Optimistic viewpoint is not never having trouble, darkness, danger or pain. Its the belief that we, as humans, grow and rise together to face them down.
Frankly, I'm tired of optimism meaning no darkness. Such a future breaks my suspension of disbelief.
Frankly, I'm tired of optimism meaning no darkness. Such a future breaks my suspension of disbelief.
By definition, merchandise sells to "fans." I'm talking about general public perceptions.
If by dark you mean eyeballs being ripped out out of suporting chacters and not a reasonble amount
If there is no hope, shouldn't Picard return to Earth and get drunk on wine?
I'd say that the general public probably know more bits from TOS than TNG, but they also probably can't tell the shows apart. "I like the guy with the ears. Is that the same show as the guy with the butt on his head?"
So, one scene? If optimism is destroyed by one scene then I'll question its value as optimism.
I enjoyed watching the episode for the most part but the scenes with Icheb and Maddox fell flat considering they easily could have gotten the actual actors to reprise their roles.
Also I know it's still early to judge this season but I'm disappointed at how dystopian it all is. That's not really what I enjoy in Star Trek. :/
Also I know it's still early to judge this season but I'm disappointed at how dystopian it all is. That's not really what I enjoy in Star Trek. :/
That scene was surprising?
... and in the last ten years what form of Trek has been most in the public eye...
Kirk, Spock, Dr. McCoy and Scotty ...
New actors playing representations of FIFTY YEAR OLD Trek Characters that have become Icons in modern culture.
Picard/TNG is just now starting to attain that prestige, it remains to be seen if it is able to achieve a similar status.
That was just the last straw for me its cheap shock value
For five episodes it does seem that the characters have been nothing but beaten down. There hasn't been much optimism yet offsetting the darkness.
That said, do you guys really think these episodes would've been lifted by the casting? If Brophy and Manu had been killed instead would everyone be satisfied?
That said, do you guys really think these episodes would've been lifted by the casting? If Brophy and Manu had been killed instead would everyone be satisfied?
A real discussion I had with someone...
Them: So what's this new Generations show?
Me: Star Trek: Picard.
Them: What's that one about?
Me: (describing it)
Them: How can they have Star Trek without the Enterprise?!
Them: So what's this new Generations show?
Me: Star Trek: Picard.
Them: What's that one about?
Me: (describing it)
Them: How can they have Star Trek without the Enterprise?!