AnsonPike's expression at 0:55 gave me the sense that something is a bit "off" with the fabric of reality, or something. Like in a Guinan/Yesterday's Enterprise kind of way.
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Should Paramount digitally alter the TOS Enterprise?
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You'll note we don't see many of the Enterprises in that floating hologram. It goes from 1701 straight to the D, skipping the A, B, and C and also not showing the E.
I suspect the reason we only saw those two particular ships had more to do with those are the only ones CBS currently has CG meshes of. They took the 1701 from Disco, which is why they used the redesign, and they have a mesh of the D because of
Picard's dream in the premiere.
Nothing should be digitally altered.
Whichever aesthetic you prefer - TOS or DSC/PIC - you are free to visualize events in either. For example, you can think of every episode of TOS happening exactly as it did, but with DSC/PIC visuals. Or the reverse.
DSC and PIC take place in the prime timeline, the showrunners have said so, so there's no questioning that. The visuals themselves are unimportant. Whichever "look" you prefer, you can go with that. But the actual episodes shouldn't be changed.
Whichever aesthetic you prefer - TOS or DSC/PIC - you are free to visualize events in either. For example, you can think of every episode of TOS happening exactly as it did, but with DSC/PIC visuals. Or the reverse.
DSC and PIC take place in the prime timeline, the showrunners have said so, so there's no questioning that. The visuals themselves are unimportant. Whichever "look" you prefer, you can go with that. But the actual episodes shouldn't be changed.
Although we do see a model of the Enterprise-E in Picard’s vault in the Starfleet Archives, a ship that we were originally never supposed to see on tv in any form.
You never see the NX-01 in anything other than in Star Trek Into Darkness. Not a deal breaker that its not in Picard, but even Discovery as a reason for not being seen in future Trek shows in any form. NX-01 is just treated like it never happened.
How can PIC take place in the same universe when it's not even a sequel, also as said by its creators?
https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019/12/29/star-trek-picard-next-generation-not-a-sequel/
If DSC and it's insanely high-tech abilities is before Kirk's time (and I don't disbelieve, as I stated reasons in the retroregressive Edward episode) and it's due to their being a super-secret section 31 ship, I'd buy into that idea as well.
Like a museum of US History without a bust of George Washington spinning around. What's sad is that ENT actually did a better job trying to fit in enough "old-tech" look. But being a prequel it still fell into the same trappings. But in the end, some people like prequels, others don't. It's okay either way. The existence of non-TOS shows - regardless who claims they're in what universe - doesn't affect TOS, which was made by an entirely different studio decades ago with different creators. Inevitably, viewers will like bits and pieces of the franchise, all of it, or none of it.
It might just be gas.
The "not a sequel" only refers to the fact that PIC is not an episodic plot-of-the-week thing like TNG was. It doesn't have anything to do with timelines or anything like that. TNG episodes are standalone, yet PIC is much more of a character-driven drama.
In fact, out of all the Trek series we have had so far, the only one that can genuinely be described as a "sequel" is TAS (being a sequel to TOS). Every Trek TV series, up to and including PIC, takes place in the same timeline, yet TAS is the only one that can really be described as a "sequel" to its predecessor.
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From reading that article, I think they didn't mean it literally that Picard wasn't a sequel to TNG. They meant that it wasn't just a continuation of TNG like how the X-Files revival from a couple of years back was more of the continuing adventures of Mulder and Scully and all of the other X-Files recurring characters.
Were either of those ships labeled (onscreen) as Enterprise? The 1701 doesn't appear to be. Perhaps it's just a generic Constitution and Galaxy, or two versions of the Yamato or something.
The Enterprise may have been a Mk. II/Mk. III Constitution, but the mesh is of a Mk. I that was never refit.
Maybe the hologram just cycles through random ship classes and just happened to go through an early Constitution to a two-nacelle Galaxy.
It just doesn't seem like it would be Picard's ship on permanent display, since in the very same scene, some goober doesn't even know who Picard is.
Good GOD no. Anything that alters or messes with the look or story of TOS in later series needs to be fixed to be in step with TOS. Or be separated off from mainstream Trek canon. In Discovery there's no point though, because it's already screwed so much with that era that it's a hopeless situation to salvage.
I love that idea. The NCC-1305 and the NCC-1305-E
(Either that, or in PIC, that ship is just a different class than the TOS Constitution class.)
It’s obvious that DSC is simply Pike’s illusion on Talos IV — why else would he daydream of his return there in TOS style?
In Season 1 he wasn’t yet comfortable making an appearance as himself. In Season 2 he imagined himself a bit older and more relaxed than he normally would be. The time-crystal plot is just his musings on what if he’d known about the accident in advance.
In Season 1 he wasn’t yet comfortable making an appearance as himself. In Season 2 he imagined himself a bit older and more relaxed than he normally would be. The time-crystal plot is just his musings on what if he’d known about the accident in advance.
The Enterprise model from CBS Digital's TOS remaster still exists, and it's built in Maya just like the DIS and PIC ships.
As long as the producers don't make the same mistakes as George Lucas did with Star Wars, when he made the special editions of the OT the only version, i can see nothing wrong about releasing a new version of TOS with an updated exterior and interior of the Enterprise.
Actually i would love to see such a version, but only if the original is there to stay...
Actually i would love to see such a version, but only if the original is there to stay...
Would not make any difference to me personally at present as i already have TOS and TNG in both original and remastered formats at 1080p, so i doubt i will ever buy them again unless they were to bring out 4k/8k boxsets versions, and if that ever happened and they had messed with the Enterprise in TOS then i simply would not touch them as both Discovery and the Picard Trek universes are not for me.
I’m not sure why this is even a discussion. DSC itself established that the original style is perfectly OK for flashbacks and by extension flashforwards. And what’s with this widespread thinking that special editions are more than curiosities? As a rule you don’t change someone’s original work. TOS is TOS, while DSC and PIC fit however they do.
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