Since you left off Discovery from your list I would have to agree with your assessment
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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Disappointing no Starfleet ships other than shuttles have appeared in the series so far. I suppose that's a deliberate choice though to distance it from TNG and other Star Trek series.
Does it really matter? Either the stories are good, or they aren't. Whether you count them as one timeline or multiple, what we are getting is new versions of the characters and universe informed by the last twenty years of the real world and the experiences of the people involved.
Picard represents one possible future for the characters, the novelverse another, "All Good Things..." another, and I'm sure there are more out there.
Uh, strange assumption to make, far more likely this points to the globes receding back into the nacelle depending on the situation.
This is my view as well. But, I am much more concerned with characters than the verisimilitude of technology. Especially when Star Trek is about future humanity. I expect technological updates.
We saw a new starfleet ship design in the Mars flashback.
Unless he means there haven’t been any ships seen in 2399.
By ship design,does PIC fit into the prime universe(TOS to VOY)?
Since Discoprise is now in same universe as Picard, and Picard is in same universe as TNG, and TNG is same universe as TOS/DS9/VOY, then the answer to your questions is... supposedly yes
I have been on a Don Quixote-like quest with some fans who just insist on cleaving the whole franchise into a thousand little universes just to be able to ignore what they don't like. There are only two universes! (And four lights!): the prime one which encompasses everything that's not the Kelvin stuff—including DSC and the now retconned 1701—and the Kelvin universe. That's it.
I get people being upset that they changed/retocnned the look of the 1701. It like the updates but I can see why they'd be annoyed about it. Doesn't mean that it's not the same universe!
Your forgot the Mirror universe. You also forgot all the universes we saw in Parallels.
The reason we talk about universes, is because we damn well know there ARE multiple universes out there.
This is a great way to verbalize it! Two timelines/universes: Kelvin, and everything else! The aesthetics can change. And I think they probably SHOULD change given how speculative future-set sci fi uses the current time as a launch point for projecting into the future. If there was no such thing as Star Trek and they made TOS tomorrow, it would look completely different because of our current level of tech. A lot of TOS is "outdated" by now, and TNG is heading that way too in some respects.
Ok, but TPTB have said that the all TV/Non-Kelvin Trek takes place in the same universe/timeline/continuity, even if they visit others temporarily or take people from others. This isn't hard.
From my perspective, I can ignore "Threshold" just fine without it being a separate universe. Whatever one wants to call the current productions, they are new versions/interpretations of the characters/universe. I tend to break things out based on how I feel they fit together, not on my like/dislike of them. I really like Enterprise, I still don't see it as fitting in the same timeline as TOS.
Do you know who that applies to? CBS employees that are working on various incarnations of Trek and the merchandise. Corporate decrees aren't enforceable on the fans.
It has nothing to do with like and don't like every single time though. For many that I have read here it comes down to "Does this fit together in terms of what we know about the world?" And, DSC doesn't fit for many.
It's not good; it's not bad. It just is.
Liking something or not is 100% a fan decision and I would never tell a fan they are not empowered to decide what that do and don't prefer.
Preference, though, does not get to override or dictate what the people who own the property decide is the overall continuity stream of the franchise. Even when fans might be able to do a better job!
There's some Trek I don't like and will never, ever watch again. It doesn't mean that those things are excised from the universe/continuity or that I get to decide they take place in a different one.
Why not? Why does CBS get to dictate how you interpret the material?
Besides, I really doubt CBS gives two shits how I interpret the material.
The issues with visual consistency are based on the real-world and out-of-universe issues that are unavoidable when running a decades-long diverse franchise. We can't ascribe in-universe explanations for the visual differences. I grant that it's inconsistent and sometimes annoying but that's just the reality (ha) of an entertainment property like this.
Sorry DSC doesn't fit visually! I really am! It's still in the prime universe/timeline though.
