as has been demonstrated, going back to DC Fontana, they've shown the moral gray areas people must face. It's always been that way, except when it isn't.
I'm liking the show so far but...
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Star Trek can also have stories with shades of gray, without the answer being black and white. That's OK too.
Wen you conspire to commit a murder you have gone way past the grey!
but Sisko saved millions of lives that way
you and I have had this discussion before. i see it from your point of view, though I will always be of the opinion In the Pale Moonlight was one of the best star trek episodes. At the same time, I don't want Star Trek to give up on its higher ideals. Its important and it is a reason star trek works. If we leave the higher ideals only in the hands of a few torch carryers like Picard or Pike, it begins to imply that their society has failed. I hope in the end they reverse course on that and give us a society worth cheering for.
Like when Kirk gave guns to primitive people so that they could continue their war?
Sisko didn't know he was in a conspiracy to commit murder until after the fact. That was why he beat the shit out of Garak.
But at the end of the day, those two lives probably saved the Alpha Quadrant from falling under Dominion rule, and saved thousands, if not millions of lives. That was why Sisko could live with it.
Hypothetically. We really do not know what would have happened, we really do not know that there was no other way. And it only worked because the writers let it to work. It could have easily doubled their problems had the Romulans found out.
I agree that in isolation it was a good episode. I just feel that they kinda dropped the ball after that. It fundamentally changed the character of Sisko, they really should have explored it more. And frankly, I would have preferred had it not worked so smoothly in the long run. It kinda was evil is smart, good is stupid solution. Anyway, I agree with your overall assessment.
yes, his desicion was harder than Kirk's, because in Sisko's case, the outcome wasn't known.
I didn't let them win the war, just hold off the Dominion for a little longer.
The DS9 book "Hollow Men" by Una McCormack is a great read.
Truly that is what I want. I don't just want an optimistic future because "humanity evolved." I want that optimistic future to actually survive both internal and external threats and scrutiny. If the Federation is truly an optimistic future then it should be able to withstand such things.
Yes, but I meant no one ever found out, nor was there any ill effect, even on character level. The plan worked perfectly. There was no court martial, there was no Romulan reprisal, there was no Vreenak's teary children.
The operation was sanctioned by Starfleet. And I doubt that the Romulans would complain so much after attempting to steal a Federation ship.
Sisko had to check with Starfleet Command to okay the plan of passing along the forged data rod to Vreenak. Starfleet probably gave him rather broad discretion to make it happen with whatever shady methods ended up being necessary. Based on Sisko erasing his personal log at the end, I got the sense that the "little" detail of Garak planting the bomb on Vreenak's shuttle was probably never going to be officially passed along to Starfleet Command. But they were so desperate that even if they did find out, they probably would have ignored it. After all, "Inter Arma..." etc.
Kor
that's why I wear a goatee. At least something about me is intelligent, even if it is just my evil symbiote
How is "In the Pale Moonlight" an episode about morality? It shows how compromises lead one to bad decisions.
