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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x03 - "The End is the Beginning"
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don't you think you'd be immediately zapped if the commodore actually did enter the chat?
wrong question - who doesn't?
I like all Vulcanoid ears. Of course, I find Vulcanoids rather attractive, so I'm biased.
They're finally getting their due in canon Trek. Diane Duane has already cornered the prose market for Romulan worldbuilding, though.
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Just in the previous episode the Romulan with the weird hairstyle said something like "If your badge flashes green, run."
It seems to suggest that Soji inadvertently turned on some Borg tech in Ramda.[ /QUOTE]
Guess it lends more support toward the theory that Soji is a future Borg Queen.
Just in the previous episode the Romulan with the weird hairstyle said something like "If your badge flashes green, run."
It seems to suggest that Soji inadvertently turned on some Borg tech in Ramda.[ /QUOTE]
Guess it lends more support toward the theory that Soji is a future Borg Queen.
[Edited] One of the hidden guns had to be a phaser because that guy they tied up lived after being shot.
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No. They are just cliche sneaky people.
The TNG-era did them a great disservice.
Right? They were just 2 dimensional sneaky bad guys...Picard is doing a great service changing that perspective.
That could've been the guy Zhaban hit with the wine bottle.
But Picard's shot blue bolts, the others shot orange bolts...
I'm a Muenchner Kindl (born in Munich)
Hello from Esslingen am Neckar.That could've been the guy Zhaban hit with the wine bottle.
But Picard's shot blue bolts, the others shot orange bolts...
I'm a Muenchner Kindl (born in Munich)
I went through that region many times by train - went to Stuttgart a few times as a kid, then lived in Heidelberg for a while
The economy is doing great if you're rich. He's done exactly Jack shit for the working class. I'm curious as to exactly which policies of his you were great with considering they've all been disastrous. You say you don't care how crass or vindictive he gets as long as what he does helps the country. Guess what? His regime is destroying the country. I would be willing to bet that these websites that provide you with "raw facts" are, in fact, complete bullshit.
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Could we please take the Trump crap elsewhere? Thanks.
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OK @DaveyNY @BorgTheory @Turtletrekker & maybe @BillJ the PICARD forum is NOT the place for any real world political discussion......Take it to TNZ or just stop here I don't care. Consider this a "friendly"...........
@Turtletrekker you are late to the party but the rest were already warned by @The Old Mixer 6 hours ago............
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"Pro tip?" 
Well, after a strong start, Picard has given us a second week of decline. Hopefully now that the three-part pilot is over (if this was true), we'll start to see some more interesting developments and course corrections. This initial quest for Freecloud seems a little intriguing, anyway.
But our two new supporting characters are a little painful. Somebody needs to remind the creators that they are writing in the Star Trek universe. How can somebody in the 24th century, a former Starfleet officer, end up living in a trailer, drinking and vaping and snarking Millennial slang? And complaining about Picard's nice house. Are we going to be subjected to Picard accused of being a one-percenter? Unless this turns out to be some form of extended self abuse-- it was implied that Starfleet discharged Raffi for being Picard's XO, but I'll bet she was offered the Enterprise and also resigned. At least that would salvage this scenario somewhat.
And then we have Han Solo Junior. Once again, in an allegedly moneyless society, we have someone who will do anything for the right paycheck. Perhaps a little more justifiable in his case, since he probably operates on the fringes of space society where you still need to pay your way, but seriously-- a cigar-smoking rogue? Can't Trek do better than that? I did get a kick out of his multiple emergency holograms, though. I wonder if his Emergency Intercourse Hologram also looks just like himself.
So, if we keep in mind that the cyberneticist also has a grudge against Starfleet or the Federation, this is apparently going to be the League of Disgruntled Employees. I didn't really want to see Starfleet and the Federation portrayed as the bad guys in this series, but I found that the scenario does really speak to me, since I've been watching the younger generations abandon the liberalism of my youth for at least the past quarter century, but I really hope that we get to see some Star Trek again real soon.
It certainly wasn't all painful and inappropriate cliches, though. I'm not sure if the contemporary trope of preluding the main story with a backstory-filling flashback is something I want in a Trek series, but my favorite part of the episode was definitely the glimpse back to Picard's last day in Starfleet. They did a nice job of suggesting, in just a couple of minutes screentime, that he and Raffi had an easy camaraderie and close relationship similar to he and Riker. Her use of the nickname "JL" also gave it a unique touch that made her different than his other close companions like Beverly and Riker (though I was disappointed not to hear him call her Number One). Those few moments were so sweet that I immediately wanted to see this current series replaced with one about Picard and Raffi on Enterprise with a new crew.
The uniforms were also notable. They were a nice evolution of the later uniforms from DS9 and Voyager and had a proper Trek feel to them. I do prefer the more colorful uniforms over the primarily black jumpsuits, but at least those horrible gray pleated things from the horribly gray movies were nowhere to be seen.
And I continue to love the Romulan caretakers. I envision one of two futures for them: Either they turn out to be moles of the Jack Flash or they will catch up with Picard out there in the universe just in time to save his ass.
But now I'm leaning more toward the cyberneticist being our token mole character, despite her being the most interesting of Picard's rag-tag, off-the-grid crew. I think she was speakng the truth when she said that she didn't tell Commodore Oh that she was going with Picard-- because I'm pretty sure that Commodore Oh ordered her to go with Picard. I'm not happy with the idea of high-ranking foreign agents in Starfleet, but, oddly enough, I do hope we see a lot more of Commodore Oh.
And it looks like Picard's new canine Number One won't be going with him on his latest space adventure. This is a shame, because I was hoping for a scene where, confronted with an enemy Romulan or something, Picard points and shouts, "Number One, engage!" and the formerly laid-back puppy goes for the throat.
Ah, well, on to Freecloud and Maddox. Hopefully they will do better.
Well, after a strong start, Picard has given us a second week of decline. Hopefully now that the three-part pilot is over (if this was true), we'll start to see some more interesting developments and course corrections. This initial quest for Freecloud seems a little intriguing, anyway.
But our two new supporting characters are a little painful. Somebody needs to remind the creators that they are writing in the Star Trek universe. How can somebody in the 24th century, a former Starfleet officer, end up living in a trailer, drinking and vaping and snarking Millennial slang? And complaining about Picard's nice house. Are we going to be subjected to Picard accused of being a one-percenter?
Unless this turns out to be some form of extended self abuse-- it was implied that Starfleet discharged Raffi for being Picard's XO, but I'll bet she was offered the Enterprise and also resigned. At least that would salvage this scenario somewhat.And then we have Han Solo Junior. Once again, in an allegedly moneyless society, we have someone who will do anything for the right paycheck. Perhaps a little more justifiable in his case, since he probably operates on the fringes of space society where you still need to pay your way, but seriously-- a cigar-smoking rogue? Can't Trek do better than that? I did get a kick out of his multiple emergency holograms, though. I wonder if his Emergency Intercourse Hologram also looks just like himself.
So, if we keep in mind that the cyberneticist also has a grudge against Starfleet or the Federation, this is apparently going to be the League of Disgruntled Employees. I didn't really want to see Starfleet and the Federation portrayed as the bad guys in this series, but I found that the scenario does really speak to me, since I've been watching the younger generations abandon the liberalism of my youth for at least the past quarter century, but I really hope that we get to see some Star Trek again real soon.
It certainly wasn't all painful and inappropriate cliches, though. I'm not sure if the contemporary trope of preluding the main story with a backstory-filling flashback is something I want in a Trek series, but my favorite part of the episode was definitely the glimpse back to Picard's last day in Starfleet. They did a nice job of suggesting, in just a couple of minutes screentime, that he and Raffi had an easy camaraderie and close relationship similar to he and Riker. Her use of the nickname "JL" also gave it a unique touch that made her different than his other close companions like Beverly and Riker (though I was disappointed not to hear him call her Number One). Those few moments were so sweet that I immediately wanted to see this current series replaced with one about Picard and Raffi on Enterprise with a new crew.
The uniforms were also notable. They were a nice evolution of the later uniforms from DS9 and Voyager and had a proper Trek feel to them. I do prefer the more colorful uniforms over the primarily black jumpsuits, but at least those horrible gray pleated things from the horribly gray movies were nowhere to be seen.
And I continue to love the Romulan caretakers. I envision one of two futures for them: Either they turn out to be moles of the Jack Flash or they will catch up with Picard out there in the universe just in time to save his ass.
But now I'm leaning more toward the cyberneticist being our token mole character, despite her being the most interesting of Picard's rag-tag, off-the-grid crew. I think she was speakng the truth when she said that she didn't tell Commodore Oh that she was going with Picard-- because I'm pretty sure that Commodore Oh ordered her to go with Picard. I'm not happy with the idea of high-ranking foreign agents in Starfleet, but, oddly enough, I do hope we see a lot more of Commodore Oh.
And it looks like Picard's new canine Number One won't be going with him on his latest space adventure. This is a shame, because I was hoping for a scene where, confronted with an enemy Romulan or something, Picard points and shouts, "Number One, engage!" and the formerly laid-back puppy goes for the throat.
Ah, well, on to Freecloud and Maddox. Hopefully they will do better.
Quoting yourself is a sin against teh interwebz.
At least cars don't have cigarette lighters to remind you any more.
They also don't have ash trays and this makes smokers more likely to flip their lit cigarettes out the window and into the watershed. It drives me nuts. I used to smoke as a kid in the 90s and we used to litter as well, but only when we were in parent's cars. If the kid owned the car and could keep a dirty ash tray we actually used them. As an adult, it infuriates me. Desmokification of new cars has a negative impact on the environment, but at least it helps some people quit.
Back to the topic. The comparison of the Mars attack with the Xindi one is interesting. We never got a proper follow up to ENT that would have incorporated the Xindi. Disco could have, the new movies mentioned them, but I think it would be interesting to pull them into the universe and explore if there are still any resentments a few hundred years later. Perhaps a Short Trek could hit on this.
I suppose in some way this show is addressing the topic of Starfleet and resentment of "old" enemies so the Xindi thing might be redundant.
To the toilet, preferably. Why you have people confusing correlation with causation they are just taking a dump on logic, it's only polite to flush.
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