Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[Rhodan]

Picard is predictably similar in certian way to Discovery. It is entartaining sci-fi drama/action show that takes place in Star Trek universe. Strongly concentrated on it´s central protagonist which can unfortunaly serve as an excuse for foggy plot direction. As I sort of said in Episode 1 review, I don´t know if I can objectively rank now the show that is so heavily serialised and in which the story must be scrtinased in the retrospect.

In fact from what I´ve heard and little of what I´ve seen, Picard is kinda close in atmosphere to cross of the Firefly and New Battlestar Galactica. I´m not going to be sentimental for the "The Real Star Trek" (becouse I don´t believe there is such thing), but I still can´t find the right magic and wonder how I would see this, if it wasn´t for the brand.

 

[BillJ]

I´m not going to be sentimental for the "The Real Star Trek" (becouse I don´t believe there is such thing), but I still can´t find the right magic and wonder how I would see this, if it wasn´t for the brand.

I would say that the original Star Trek is the real one.

 

[fireproof78]

I would say that the original Star Trek is the real one.

Indeed. The original is like a band's first album. Most genuine sound, most mistakes, and often times, the most unique.

 

[Yminale]

In fact from what I´ve heard and little of what I´ve seen, Picard is kinda close in atmosphere to cross of the Firefly and New Battlestar Galactica. I´m not going to be sentimental for the "The Real Star Trek" (becouse I don´t believe there is such thing), but I still can´t find the right magic and wonder how I would see this, if it wasn´t for the brand.

Part of the problem is that Star Trek influenced both Galactica and Firefly. The other problem is ST isn't new anymore and nostalgia isn't as strong as the actual experience.

 

[fireproof78]

Which is why I'd rather treat each show as its own instead of "Star Trek."

 

[Yminale]

Which is why I'd rather treat each show as its own instead of "Star Trek."

I agree. One of the things that annoys me is how nostalgia has basically taken over genre TV and Now a show is only good if it reminds the viewer of their childhood. I trust Stewart. He wouldn't do this show unless it brought something new to table.

 

[cooleddie74]

Indeed. The original is like a band's first album. Most genuine sound, most mistakes, and often times, the most unique.

And in some ways still the most emulated and respected if not the one people think is the flashiest or most sophisticated.

 

[Yminale]

And in some ways still the most emulated and respected if not the one people think is the flashiest or most sophisticated.

I disagree. People know TOS basically from all the bad satire made about the shows including Shatner's infamous "Get a life" skit in SNL. One only hast to look at the Abrams reboot which basically showed the crew as caricatures of the originals. Young people are always surprise how sophisticated TOS once they get past the 60's era set designs and wonky special effects.

 

[cooleddie74]

Well, maybe the people you know. Not the ones I grew up with and have in my life.

They know TOS from TOS and all the parodies and satire are separate from that. 1960s television characters weren't always subtle and neither was the acting but people respect what those characters did and who they were.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, maybe the people you know. Not the ones I grew up with and have in my life.

They know TOS from TOS and all the parodies and satire are separate from that. 1960s television characters weren't always subtle and neither was the acting but people respect what those characters did and who they were.

Same here. And, even with Abrams' Trek, there was a definite respect given to characters, while acknowledging possible differences. Even my wife, who had a tough time with Trek, found some appeal in TOS after watching Abrams' Trek.

 

[JD]

One thing I noticed in the credits that I thought was interesting, is that it says "Based on Star Trek: The Next Generation" rather than the original series. I understand why, since it's a direct sequel to TNG, but I believe it's the only Star Trek series since the original not the have "based upon Star Trek, created by Gene Rodenberry" in the credits.

 

[cooleddie74]

It is. The only series OR film.

 

[picardjean-luc]

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-picard-discovery-mistakes-correct/

Star Trek: Picard does not succumb to the same problem. Set several decades after Nemesis, Picard's solo series is a straight sequel with a relatively untouched future ahead of it. Unlike Star Trek: Discovery, the new series isn't forced to adhere to a strict timeline where the audience already knows what the future looks like. Similarly, Star Trek: Picard is largely faithful in carrying forward plot points and characters from the franchise's past. The series follows directly on from both the 2009 Star Trek movie and the past outings of the Next Generation cast, continuing the theme of Data's sentience, the impact of the android's death and the mistrust between the Federation and Romulans. Star Trek: Picard makes use of the building blocks already in place, rather than rearranging or rewriting history in order to fit around a brand new story, as Star Trek: Discovery was accused of doing.

 

[AlanC9]

Saw this over on Rotten Tomatoes

Sorely disappointed - this obviously takes place within the so-called "prime" universe that Discovery takes place in instead of a sequel set in the original universe.

I haven't been following the whining too closely. Is pretending that DSC is supposed to be in a different universe from TOS/TNG/etc. actually a thing?

 

[JLBTucker]

Saw this over on Rotten Tomatoes


I haven't been following the whining too closely. Is pretending that DSC is supposed to be in a different universe from TOS/TNG/etc. actually a thing?

yeah and well i can see were they might think that

 

[Nerys Myk]

Saw this over on Rotten Tomatoes


I haven't been following the whining too closely. Is pretending that DSC is supposed to be in a different universe from TOS/TNG/etc. actually a thing?

Yes.

 

[fireproof78]

Saw this over on Rotten Tomatoes


I haven't been following the whining too closely. Is pretending that DSC is supposed to be in a different universe from TOS/TNG/etc. actually a thing?

Pretty much a steady drumbeat at this point.

 

[DaveyNY]

It's a Thing.
Not a very accurate 'Thing', but nonetheless some folks can't be swayed.

 

[BillJ]

Is pretending that DSC is supposed to be in a different universe from TOS/TNG/etc. actually a thing?

I don't think Discovery and TOS fit together, at all. Which one gets thrown out is up to the individual viewer.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't think Discovery and TOS fit together, at all. Which one gets thrown out is up to the individual viewer.

they can also choose not to throw out either.