STAR TREK 4 BACK ON! Noah Hawley to write and direct

[Malaika]

I think TV trek, especially on streaming services only, and movie trek still have a different audience. .with the latter being far bigger and diverse.
For those of us who watch and follow TV trek it might seem a given that it's enough popular but truth is, most of my friends or people I know who watched and enjoyed kelvin trek don't even know discovery&co exist, and the few who do wouldn't be interested about a discovery or prime trek movie, especially if mutually exclusive with kelvinverse trek, because they think they can get that stuff on TV while the movies are for the other cast/verse that you don't currently have on TV.

Tbh I think cbs is already risking over saturation with all those series they are apparently planning. It seems a most expensive investment too.

 

[donners22]

So would it be a good choice to have DISCO move to motion pictures? It already has a built in audience like the previous shows, TOS and TNG, and it's boosting subscriptions according to CBS. Could DISCO be a likely choice to keep the movie franchise going?

It has a far smaller audience than those shows, at least in the US.

I'd also wonder what more a film could let them do than they're already doing on TV. They're already telling big stories with spectacular effects - the S2 season finale looks better than most Trek films.

 

[Danlav05]

It has a far smaller audience than those shows, at least in the US.

I'd also wonder what more a film could let them do than they're already doing on TV. They're already telling big stories with spectacular effects - the S2 season finale looks better than most Trek films.

I also wodner this - I think in time Kurtzman will also be looking after the movies as viacomCBS now exists.

Sotry wise - I would like a fourth Kelvinverse movie if you can get the key cast members back (with WS as older Kirk?!). But what wiould pull people in?

A new crew of well-known actors?
A trip to the mirror universe?
Picard on the Stargazer?
Samuel L Jackson as Sisko with DS9 exploding around him?

 

[F. King Daniel]

TV Trek has crazy high production values. Each episode looks like a movie. What will convince people to pay extra to see them when they're already paying for CBS All Access/Netflix+Prime? Especially in an environment where the last movie disappointed and they want to cut costs?

 

[Khan 2.0]

TV Trek has crazy high production values. Each episode looks like a movie. What will convince people to pay extra to see them when they're already paying for CBS All Access/Netflix+Prime? Especially in an environment where the last movie disappointed and they want to cut costs?

Tarantino was a fantastic bet for a unique movie experience .. but that wasn't to be ..
But I'd still go with whatever Tarantino had cooked up with someone else directing (Rodríguez?) and sell it as 'Quentin Tarantino Presents'

 

[Dales]

Tarantino was a fantastic bet for a unique movie experience .. but that wasn't to be ..
But I'd still go with whatever Tarantino had cooked up with someone else directing (Rodríguez?) and sell it as 'Quentin Tarantino Presents'

yes, the edge tarantino's trek would have had is, it would have been a fantastic story telling film with amazing dialogues.

I have not seen Picard but I have seen discovery while it is of very high production value, the story is very generic and feels like something more fitted for a CW show not trek. Tarentino's trek would have had the High production value as well as the story.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Hawley Trek just died?
https://twitter.com/AngryMrFlibble/status/1223644078920871936/photo/1

 

[Smellmet]

Hawley Trek just died?
https://twitter.com/AngryMrFlibble/status/1223644078920871936/photo/1

How depressingly predictable.

 

[Lance]

I think TV trek, especially on streaming services only, and movie trek still have a different audience. .with the latter being far bigger and diverse.
For those of us who watch and follow TV trek it might seem a given that it's enough popular but truth is, most of my friends or people I know who watched and enjoyed kelvin trek don't even know discovery&co exist, and the few who do wouldn't be interested about a discovery or prime trek movie, especially if mutually exclusive with kelvinverse trek, because they think they can get that stuff on TV while the movies are for the other cast/verse that you don't currently have on TV.

Tbh I think cbs is already risking over saturation with all those series they are apparently planning. It seems a most expensive investment too.

I've long felt that, even back in the old days when there was a lot of crossover, the movies have got a broader audience. Particularly internationally. I've even literally met people who've never watched a single episode of the original series or Next Gen, but who 'know' the movies, whose entire exposure to them has been through The Wrath of Khan or First Contact. We as fans would probably find that notion bizarre, but it's true.

In fact, I made the case some time ago that although Generations has it's heart in the right place -- transitioning from movie-era TOS follows on from Star Trek VI well, allowing these casual audiences to follow -- where they then made a somewhat fatal flaw was in then assuming too much familiarity with the TNG cast. From the moment they switch to the 24th century, the script makes no serious attempts to introduce the crew or assume audiences may not have even seen The Next Generation on TV. Again, I can speak from experience that I've met such people.

Anyways, I digress I think there's still a market for cinematic Trek, and that market stands seperately in part to the TV shows. And, honestly, needs to be treated as such. That's where I feel the Kelvin timeline is a perfect solution. It let's film makers play with some of the toys, Kirk and crew etc, without being strictly beholden to what's going on on TV.

Hawley Trek just died?
https://twitter.com/AngryMrFlibble/status/1223644078920871936/photo/1

How depressingly predictable.

Absolutely.

 

[Lance]

Alternatively, my simple solution? Move the Pike series idea to the big screen. You can relaunch a refreshed movie franchise with a ship named Enterprise at the center and Spock as a familiar character, while having a ready made cast in Anson Mount and Rebecca Romijn. Bump it to the big screen, re-use all of those Enterprise sets from TV to save money, but tell original stories that stand alone.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

Alternatively, my simple solution? Move the Pike series idea to the big screen. You can relaunch a refreshed movie franchise with a ship named Enterprise at the center and Spock as a familiar character, while having a ready made cast in Anson Mount and Rebecca Romijn. Bump it to the big screen, re-use all of those Enterprise sets from TV to save money, but tell original stories that stand alone.

I would love for them to make a Pike movie and then use it to introduce the Pike series. Would be a somewhat new approach to things.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Hawley Trek just died?
https://twitter.com/AngryMrFlibble/status/1223644078920871936/photo/1

Coming soon to Midnight's Edge/Doomcock/creepy Facebook hater groups

 

[STEPhon IT]

Alternatively, my simple solution? Move the Pike series idea to the big screen. You can relaunch a refreshed movie franchise with a ship named Enterprise at the center and Spock as a familiar character, while having a ready made cast in Anson Mount and Rebecca Romijn. Bump it to the big screen, re-use all of those Enterprise sets from TV to save money, but tell original stories that stand alone.

Too big a risk, why can't Viacom just bring an established series which has a built in audience and carry over to the movies? Can Mount and Romijn really launch a movie series... at their ages???

It has a far smaller audience than those shows, at least in the US.

I'd also wonder what more a film could let them do than they're already doing on TV. They're already telling big stories with spectacular effects - the S2 season finale looks better than most Trek films.

I would love to know the subscription numbers for Allaccess, but I'm not sure it would be a good idea to sell a movie franchise to today's audiences with a group of old actors playing Pike and Number One. Maybe recast them as a younger version of them? I would pay to see that.

 

[donners22]

Hawley Trek just died?
https://twitter.com/AngryMrFlibble/status/1223644078920871936/photo/1

Pretty much every line is hate-bait, so I wouldn’t read much into it.

 

[The Wormhole]

I find I just don't care about this anymore. Trek is going strong on TV, that's good enough for me.

 

[Racefuel]

I find I just don't care about this anymore. Trek is going strong on TV, that's good enough for me.

Bingo.

I'd rather have 2-3 strong ST streaming series than one feature film that could potentially go flat.

 

[Lance]

I've always been one of the 'Star Trek belongs on TV' crowd.

But that being said, it's cinematic strain has got a lineage of it's own that it'd be a shame to lose.

And like it or not, it was success in cinemas (2009) which has kick-started TV Trek again, after it fell from grace.

The two have had a history of co-existing also, so, again, it seems like it'd be regrettable to lose that.

That all being said, it feels like it's Movie Trek's "turn" to be stuck in the doldrums now.

I liked the 2009 cast and would hope for their return, but must acknowledge that, 11 years later, and nearly 5 since their last outing, the torch probably needs to he passed.

A Mount/Romijn/Peck movie not only has a chance to tie into TV Trek, but also, if the movie makers wish, can even eventually lead to another soft reboot of TOS should it be desired.

So there's also that.

 

[donners22]

There’s something special about seeing Trek in a cinema, and it does have the potential to reach a broader audience.

The gap has certainly narrowed in terms of presentation, though.

 

[Malaika]

Hawley Trek just died?
https://twitter.com/AngryMrFlibble/status/1223644078920871936/photo/1

They outed themselves by mentioning the Orville as 'competition' (lol) and that the movie 'it isn't in bad robot timeline. It's in the canonical timeline' . Try again.

 

[M'Sharak]

Hawley Trek just died?
https://twitter.com/AngryMrFlibble/status/1223644078920871936/photo/1

Coming soon to Midnight's Edge/Doomcock/creepy Facebook hater groups

Pretty much every line is hate-bait, so I wouldn’t read much into it.

They outed themselves by mentioning the Orville as 'competition' (lol) and that the movie 'it isn't in bad robot timeline. It's in the canonical timeline' . Try again.

Yeah, judging by some of the other Twitter accounts followed by this person and by the content of the YouTube channel linked in profile, it appears they may be just a teensy bit biased, where certain subjects are concerned. Best taken with a grain of salt.