Spoilers Riker & Troi, still in Starfleet?

[thribs]

Most would be nearing, if not over, forty years of service. I don't see an issue with them going on with their lives.

He could have a family onboard his ship. They’re still young for that era.

 

[BillJ]

I think the "problem" here is the TOS movies keeping the same characters in largely the same places they were in the TV show right up until ST6. It was always silly, but it set expectations with some people.

(Even on the TNG side, after the S2 reshuffle, most of the characters stayed in the same positions all the way up until Nemesis - even Worf kept finding excuses to end up back on the Enterprise, having moved to DS9/the Defiant and supposedly left Starfleet in the final episode thereof.)

I understand the expectations, but I don't understand the "dark" timeline because people retire. I imagine very few of the characters we saw in the 24th century shows would still be in Starfleet in 2399.

 

[BillJ]

He could have a family onboard his ship. They’re still young for that era.

They don't look young, they look like they are reaching retirement age. And we don't even know if Starfleet still allows children on starships after the Borg, Dominion Wars, Synth attacks and destabilization of the Romulan Empire.

 

[fireproof78]

I understand the expectations, but I don't understand the "dark" timeline because people retire. I imagine very few of the characters we saw in the 24th century shows would still be in Starfleet in 2399.

Same. Expectations are fine but keeping things static makes no sense.

 

[thribs]

Hopefully Worf is still in Starfleet. He’s no coward to run off when things get tough.

 

[Gonzo]

He retired after The Undiscovered Country. He was there as a publicity stunt.

Yeah for the launch of the Enterprise B in Generations.

It didnt go well.

 

[BillJ]

Hopefully Worf is still in Starfleet. He’s no coward to run off when things get tough.

It isn't about being a coward. It is about father time and the next generation. Eventually, all of us are moved on by the combination of the two.

 

[BillJ]

It would be interesting to know which rank Riker held at retirement....throw a little sop to the lit verse and make him an admiral.

He probably did something stupid and got drummed out of the fleet with a reduced rank.

 

[thribs]

It isn't about being a coward. It is about father time and the next generation. Eventually, all of us are moved on by the combination of the two.

I get that but it’s only been 20 years. If it was 50 then I would expect them to be all done.

 

[SoM]

Same. Expectations are fine but keeping things static makes no sense.

Just to be clear, I referred to the TOS crew being essentially static, always reverting to the same position on the same ship (and direct successors thereof) as "silly". I wasn't saying it made sense!

 

[Gonzo]

He could have a family onboard his ship. They’re still young for that era.

Bringing up kids on a Starship or space station is not going to be for everyone and brings challenges of its own.

 

[Phily B]

Out of all the main crew, I imagine only LaForge is still in Starfleet. But it seems there isn't going to be a lot of focus on Starfleet adventures with Picard, not yet anyway. I still think the Enterprise will turn up eventually, hopefully the Enterprise-E, and we get to see it go out in style.

I like to think Worf got over his midlife crisis and is paling around with Martok still.

 

[BillJ]

I get that but it’s only been 20 years. If it was 50 then I would expect them to be all done.

It has only been twenty years since we saw them. But many of Picard's crew would've joined in the late 2350's/early 2360's. So they would've had long careers.

 

[Gonzo]

Out of all the main crew, I imagine only LaForge is still in Starfleet. But it seems there isn't going to be a lot of focus on Starfleet adventures with Picard, not yet anyway. I still think the Enterprise will turn up eventually, hopefully the Enterprise-E, and we get to see it go out in style.

I like to think Worf got over his midlife crisis and is paling around with Martok still.

Would be cool to see Picard go down with his ship as it would be a fitting sendoff, just like we sort of saw with Kirk on the Enterprise B, leaving the much younger Harriman on the bridge.

He could be if events dont follow STO, I liked Martok and hoped to see him again.

At this point anything could happen.

 

[thribs]

Just to be clear, I referred to the TOS crew being essentially static, always reverting to the same position on the same ship (and direct successors thereof) as "silly". I wasn't saying it made sense!

That’s only somewhat true. Chekov was the first Officer in the Reliant, but after the incidents in WoK preferred to stay with Kirk on the Enterprise our of loyalty. Sulu eventually did leave for the Excelsior.
The others are easy to explain. McCoy was just a doctor who stayed with Kirk out of friendship and Scotty was married to the Enterprise.

 

[flandry84]

Hopefully Worf is still in Starfleet. He’s no coward to run off when things get tough.

Except when somebody needs a blood transfusion...

 

[thribs]

Now Worf should be the captain of the Enterprise. Would be a cool misdirect. You think the Enterprise comes in to stop Picard and his renegades only for it to reveal Worf as the captain.

 

[BillJ]

Now Worf should be the captain of the Enterprise. Would be a cool misdirect. You think the Enterprise comes in to stop Picard and his renegades only for it to reveal Worf as the captain.

Only if Worf hauls them off to jail.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Only if Worf hauls them off to jail.

"If you were any other man, I'd kill you where you stand. Instead I'm gonna arrest you."

 

[The Old Mixer]

I always get confused by the timings of this... Did Kirk retire after The Undiscovered Country, and re-join prior to Generations, or was the gap somewhere else?

He retired after The Undiscovered Country. He was there as a publicity stunt.

The Nexus fantasy of Kirk at his cabin with Antonia was supposed to have been something like 12 years before the Enterprise-B launch in 2293. This placed the moment being recreated as happening between TMP and TWOK, suggesting that Kirk had temporarily left Starfleet sometime during that period.