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Fashion trends come and go. Most futurism predictions of fashion rarely come true.
It’s not about getting it right but making an effort IMHO.

Earth wasn't attacked during the Dominion War? Huh, weird...
No, not in any way that would suggest major changes to it post reconstruction. The Breen barely destroyed the one location they were firing at. Another question might have been why didn’t they nuke it and do a better job?

I don't know why that would make more changes.

Huh? Didn’t you just make the point that wars change the landscape?

I see no need to have there in the story if it isn't relevant to the story.
it’s relevant because it establishes setting.

This isn't a story about future Earth to inspire the masses. If it were a story about future Earth and that's what I saw then I would lament it. But, it's not. Nor is Trek tech meant to inspire. It is stories about humanity and not their fashion or technology.

Star Trek is set in the future. It’s in the title. It’s what it chooses (not is chosen for it) to be, and half of what makes it so interesting. I liked “Far Beyond the Stars,” but I’d be less interested in watching a non-sci-fi spinoff set in Benny Russell’s time.

The sci-fi stuff without being the point has always inspired just by being there. PIC still does a lot of it...he visits his quantum archive, there are flash transporters, Daj is an android, there’s a friggin Borg in it...but it’s lackluster as well.
 
That's a lot of hipsters

It's true though. It's why on ones 40th birthday when one has to toss their skinny jeans,hoodies in the trash and remove the hair buns they then have to face the ultimate choice. Distinguished elder statesman or random dude. Some go one way and others the other way.


Jason
 
It’s not about getting it right but making an effort IMHO.
But, the production team gets castigated at every turn. This is not a hill worth dying on for them, in my opinion, largely because it isn't relevant to the story.
No, not in any way that would suggest major changes to it post reconstruction. The Breen barely destroyed the one location they were firing at. Another question might have been why didn’t they nuke it and do a better job?
Yes, I stand corrected regarding the attack, however, wars can impact more than just landscapes. Supply lines, paranoia, and such all could be impacted.
Huh? Didn’t you just make the point that wars change the landscape?
Wars can have impact in many different ways.
it’s relevant because it establishes setting.
Setting is already established.
The sci-fi stuff without being the point has always inspired just by being there. PIC still does a lot of it...he visits his quantum archive, there are flash transporters, Daj is an android, there’s a friggin Borg in it...but it’s lackluster as well.
Which follows along with Roddenberry's original idea-the technology is not the focus. The technology exists in the background, doesn't require commentary, and isn't the inspiration of the series. It is just tools that are used in the daily grind.

The story is about the people.
 
Maybe but I can't tell most American accents apart. I mean I can hear Southern,OKlahoma,Texas though they sort of can blend together as well. New Yorker but basically only if someone is yelling and acting rude and Boston if someone is yelling and acting rude or talking about the Red Sox. Maybe Minnesota but maybe not Minnesota and I have just seen to many episodes of Fargo. Also Valley girl but since this isn't 1984 anymore that doesn't do me any good.


Jason
What this has to do with anything? Can you tell from which part of UK Narek's accent is from?
 
Wow- Trek really IS about a hopeful future. Look at all those tall buildings Boston has in 400 years. Right now, it’s tough to get anything built over 15 stories!
 
To me the easy fix is to avoid modern slang and enough with the emo beards. Also not sure about British and Italian sounding Romulans. It seems to me aliens should at least sound a little less human than they do.

Jason

I prefer the colloquial usage to what one TNG writer called "the stilted Star Trek language."
 
But, the production team gets castigated at every turn. This is not a hill worth dying on for them, in my opinion, largely because it isn't relevant to the story.

Their “dying” is absurd. It’s their job.

Setting is already established.

It’s reestablished less futuristic, yes.

The story is about the people.
It’s not either or.

To reiterate, I love the series. I’ve seen the premier 5 times I’m so happy with all of this. But the series does leave me underwhelmed on this subject.
 
I still think the Kelvinverse has the best depiction of earth. It felt both futuristic but also with modern touches but modern touches the tv shows never really did. The bars still felt like bars for example and the police officer has the speeder bike and face helmet but he is still a cop in the same way we have cops here today and not just a security officer like we see on the tv shows.


Jason

Agreed. Frisco having traffic lights and trolleys but only a couple cars instead of a clogged up streets hit a nice plausible balance for me. I guess we now know that’s because everyone flies in a shuttle since there’s a fuckton of them in this show.
 
I hope that CBS All Access and the success of Discovery (and hopefully Picard) let us have more down to Earth slice of life shorts/miniseries in order to flesh out life on Earth of the 25th century.
 
Their “dying” is absurd. It’s their job.
Their job is to tell the story. That's what they did.
It’s reestablished less futuristic, yes.
How so? Genuinely? Because of fashion? In a replicator society fashion could change even more frequently than now.
It’s not either or.

To reiterate, I love the series. I’ve seen the premier 5 times I’m so happy with all of this. But the series does leave me underwhelmed on this subject.
To reiterate it wasn't essential to the story. Thus, they didn't focus on it because the story was about people, and the setting was a given.

Could they have done better? Maybe. But, it isn't Star Trek's job to inspire humanity by brilliant futurism.
 
Wow- Trek really IS about a hopeful future. Look at all those tall buildings Boston has in 400 years. Right now, it’s tough to get anything built over 15 stories!

There's a sign mentioning the London Kings, so baseball could be a thing again.

I wonder what Fenway Park looks like in 2399? :)
 
I thought "hipster" beards were well groomed and stylized, not the scruffy look sported by the Romulan.
I thought hipster beards were really long and thick affairs. Narek's beard is nowhere near long or thick enough to qualify as a hipster beard.
 
I prefer the colloquial usage to what one TNG writer called "the stilted Star Trek language."

I generally prefer that as well. The only real time it really took me out of the moment was the date between Dahj and the alien dude. He was way,way to 2020 human sounding that it almost looks dumb they felt the need to put some alien goop on his forehead. Maybe it's only when the aliens sound like young modern day humans that it's a issue. Even though it seems weird to here a Romulan with a Italian accent I actually loved those Romulan friends of Picard and the way they and Picard interacted. It felt modern but also adult. Of course I can sort of understand it must also be hard to sort of figure out how to write young people in Trek. They got to sound young and using tons of slang but of course the stuff young people would be into in the future would be different than what they are into today. You can't exactly have them posting on space twitter and listening to Beyounce.

Jason
 
Their job is to tell the story. That's what they did.

Story is the writer's job. The designer's job is to create the setting. They created "a" setting, sure. Any hack can do that.

How so? Genuinely? Because of fashion? In a replicator society fashion could change even more frequently than now.

It's not the replicators.

To reiterate it wasn't essential to the story. Thus, they didn't focus on it because the story was about people, and the setting was a given.

Again, that excuse can be applied to any show, yet your'e not going to find Starbucks cups on Game of Thrones...wait.

Could they have done better? Maybe. But, it isn't Star Trek's job to inspire humanity by brilliant futurism.

Yes, it is. It's been a HUGE part of Trek from the beginning and in every incarnation. And fans have loved it for it.
 
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