Exactly so. This is fixation on LFL's business is rather odd,
Obi Wan series on the way?
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Not even Disney wants to just lose 50 million.. especially not on the number one film franchise of all time. I mean after Solo "happened" they quickly dropped the idea of dropping a new film every year.All you really need to do is look at the attitudes around the box office for Solo to tell how much it hurt them. From what I remember the whole reaction was
and then they moved on. If it was that damaging, we would have seen a lot more of an aftermath to it.
The loss was NOT shrugged off It's asinine to believe so
They adjusted and
moved on. That's the nature of business. Star Wars is no exception.
moved on. That's the nature of business. Star Wars is no exception.
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I guess my overall point is leadership. Project s fall apart because of bad leadership. You guys can go on a case by case basis and you would not be entirely wrong to say It's not KK's fault in this case.. but there is a pattern here that hints that she and her directors were NOT 100 Percent on the same page when the projects were announced, and as a leader that is her main job, to be sure against thick and thin that that is the case.. and all the excuses and circumstances be damned. I fulfill orders every day, and I could have an excuse (my car won't start, my friend died, the weather is bad) that would all be valid excuses for why I didn't fulfill an order on time, but as order fulfillment head of my little company, none of the excuses matter, because if the job is not getting done I should be removed. MULTIPLE projects over a span of a few years have literally been announced and have literally crumbled under her leadership. This is not her a job she is a good fit for. She is a good producer, but there are many different types of producers, just like there many different types of football players, and you don't move your star QB to wide receiver.
I said this a few pages ago, and I believe it whole-heartedly.
Feige says he has plans for films five years out. Does it not bother anyone here that there was no plan for the sequel trilogy. Love the movies or hate them I don't care.. there was clearly no unifying vision behind them .
I said this a few pages ago, and I believe it whole-heartedly.
handpicked by Lucas or not, she is not in the right job for her skill set. Lucas is a genius but he has made bad choices before
Feige says he has plans for films five years out. Does it not bother anyone here that there was no plan for the sequel trilogy. Love the movies or hate them I don't care.. there was clearly no unifying vision behind them .
Nope.
Good. Why didn't people demand his firing like they are doing with Kennedy?
Kennedy is doing a good enough job for LFL and Disney's liking. I have been entertained by their output. I will not concern myself with business decisions that I have no influence over and have no bearing on my life.
Honestly, my biggest hope is the Wookiee Bounty Hunter I linked too a couple pages back. I also like the idea of that bounty hunter showing up on the Mandalorian.
Ok the awful arguments people are making here are making me go the other way on this!
Yes Solo's box office outing was terrible, and yes Disney panicked and adjusted their entire plan for the franchise going forward and yes that's a big deal, and yes KK should get some of the blame for everything that happened, just like any CEO of any company gets the blame for everything that goes wrong.
And also, TLJ was expected to make less than TFA, but was it expected to make THAT much less? I don't think so. "That doesn't matter because Disney still made a profit" they say... but in a publicly traded company that almost doesn't matter. Everything is about meeting expectations, and I don't think TLJ met expectations.
Well why does any of this matter to us they ask... Well, it matters to us if we are Star Wars fans because it's going to make Disney course correct and fix the downward spiral. And if we like the course they are on now, we obviously don't want a course correction!
And finally, yes someone cares that the ST was made without a clear plan. That someone is me. I would have far preferred the 3 movies to flow together better than they do. I loved TLJ, but given how everything ended up I'd rather have had JJ direct all 3 movies.
Yes Solo's box office outing was terrible, and yes Disney panicked and adjusted their entire plan for the franchise going forward and yes that's a big deal, and yes KK should get some of the blame for everything that happened, just like any CEO of any company gets the blame for everything that goes wrong.
And also, TLJ was expected to make less than TFA, but was it expected to make THAT much less? I don't think so. "That doesn't matter because Disney still made a profit" they say... but in a publicly traded company that almost doesn't matter. Everything is about meeting expectations, and I don't think TLJ met expectations.
Well why does any of this matter to us they ask... Well, it matters to us if we are Star Wars fans because it's going to make Disney course correct and fix the downward spiral. And if we like the course they are on now, we obviously don't want a course correction!
And finally, yes someone cares that the ST was made without a clear plan. That someone is me. I would have far preferred the 3 movies to flow together better than they do. I loved TLJ, but given how everything ended up I'd rather have had JJ direct all 3 movies.
So... my current theory on the canceled Obi Wan scripts is that Obi Wan had to protect Baby Luke on Tattooine from whatever... And that's just Mandalorian without a cute baby. In fact that isn't really a theory but what's being reported, right?
Of course they couldn't release the show like that - they aren't making Baby Star Wars here...
Of course they couldn't release the show like that - they aren't making Baby Star Wars here...
If fans care that much, on either side, then it's not here that should be hearing about it. It should be at Disney and LFL and not purchasing/purchasing and demonstrate with your money.
Thus far, despite the decrease in box office over time (expected) the current output is making money for LFL and for Disney. So, if people want it to change stop buying it.
For me, I don't care which direction they go. I am a fan of seeing more SW, more creative people being involved and an increase in variety in the output. Thus far, I have been entertained and satisfied well enough.
I enjoy the ST and think they could have been done better. But, I cannot change that.
Give them time.
That's my whole point. I liked their original plan of a movie every year... but people stopped buying it and now we won't be seeing that. I wanted to see where the plot threads from Solo would go... and now I probably never will.
And don't tell me it's not a big deal. Of course it's not, it's just entertainment. Yet we are on this board discussing that entertainment, so this is the correct venue to voice displeasure without being told that it doesn't really matter.
That's my point. It's being discussed here which has zero impact upon Disney or LFL. If people are that upset then the energy actually needs to be directed and not the random rantings that come from the Internet.
And they'll adjust as the market adjusts. Again, if that's what you want then it needs to be communicated to the people that make those decisons.
Despite my often crazy-headed notions I am not, in fact, the head of LFL or Disney.
Are you going to tell me these discussion have an impact upon the decision making regarding future SW?
Because I don't recall saying discussions don't matter. I believe I said they don't matter to effect change. There is a difference.
Finally. please do not tell me what to do. Humans are great at wasting time. This is how I prefer to use mine.
Nothing we ever do matters. Doesn't mean we can't talk about it.
I don't seem to recall saying not to talk about it. I was simply observing what effect it would have upon it.
That wasn't a slight directed at anyone and certainly didn't require the personal slight directed at me.
No slight. Just a forceful suggestion.
Really? That was forceful?!?
WTF, man! I have no impact upon your choices any more than I can impact the suns from turning. I make an observation that it has no impact upon LFL's decision making process and suggest that if people want change to seek out avenues to do so and that's forceful. What...?
It's like that Abbot and Costello skit where Abbot gets mad at Costello for daring to suggest taking aspirin for a headache...
Really? That was forceful?!?
WTF, man! I have no impact upon your choices any more than I can impact the suns from turning. I make an observation that it has no impact upon LFL's decision making process and suggest that if people want change to seek out avenues to do so and that's forceful. What...?
It's like that Abbot and Costello skit where Abbot gets mad at Costello for daring to suggest taking aspirin for a headache...
????
I am talking about my comment.
Telling me to leave isn't a slight?
Man, you are confusing me to all hell right now.
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