My Silver Age brain immediately went to the Bottle City of Kandor as well.
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My Silver Age brain immediately went to the Bottle City of Kandor as well.
Maybe Kara will start drinking heavily during the events of this episode? 
Sneak peak for tonight's "bottle episode". Looks like a Lex Luthor TV ad for the DEO:
Oh my Beebo, the DEO has gone corporate. Well, I guess that was implicit at the end of Crisis -- it was right there on the floor logo -- but I didn't think through the ramifications.
Maybe Kara will start drinking heavily during the events of this episode?
5 minutes of continuous heat Ray vision = room for a 3 day bender.
Although, Argo City is a great place to get shit face...
How did the "evil" Superman get drunk in Superman III? Was he faking it, or was he just a little wasted always from the synthetic kryptonite?
They just subtly mention the Anti-Life Equation; the most powerful McGuffin in the whole DC universe like it was nothing? 
So looks like Crisis has altered the Coluians somewhat and we’ve got confirmation that Brainiac-4 will be going with the female version. Funnily enough, the post Crisis version.
Toy Man is back next week. That should be fun.
So looks like Crisis has altered the Coluians somewhat and we’ve got confirmation that Brainiac-4 will be going with the female version. Funnily enough, the post Crisis version.
Toy Man is back next week. That should be fun.
Supergirl
Season 5 / Episode 10 - "The Bottle Episode"
SG/Kara: Yawn. She never learns, but the showrunners have their agendas regarding her Lena obsession. Day serves what purpose other than a milquetoast / teased love interest? His trying to take on Lex holds no interest. He's just one character too many in an already crowded series.
Lex: He had no idea what Leviathan was/is, but now that he's seeking them out--and one can assume a certain supervillain's double. I expect this to be the tracks laid to eventually get rid of Luthor once and for all, with his "partnership" with Brainy being the worst decision he will make, even though its clear he does not trust him.
Lena: When we last saw Lena, she made the following statement: "I've learned my lesson from all of you." / "We are not friends...". Now--post COIE--the Luthors are supposed to be the public's favorite family...
...but I was wondering if the showrunners--desperate to jump back to grinning "we're pals!" nonsense--would jettison all of the build-up of Lena's true nature. Thankfully, Lena remembers everything, but knowing this show, viewers will be subjected to the tired, "Lena has to make a choice--side with Lex / her mother/continue exploring her own immoral plans, or make an 11th hour change to screw over her family all to grin at Kara / help her with the after-effects of COIE" in another forced connection.
It was enjoyable to see "Alt-Lillian" dress down Lena with ease; she is so to the point and several steps ahead of everyone. Although she made an offer to her son, I hope she remains independent, and not a pawn / enemy of her children. Too predictable.
Eve: Interesting--the "Alt-Eve" is now Rojas' mentor by another name. Creating a virtual world for the "harmed"--sounds like she's been channeling the Talosians' "helpful" offer to Pike. That kind of tech cannot go anywhere good. She has to be playing her own angle.
Nia / Brainy: As we will see in the next episode of Batwoman, the earth mergers did not merge existing people, hence the doubles of Alice, and now Brainy. Regarding the "Big Brain"--something smells like his accessing it will lead to Brainy not being "free" but becoming a form of the real Braniac (suggested by his temporary personality change last season) as in a villain.
NOTES: So, Alex explains the reason why the average person cannot have their true memory restored for fest that they would lose their minds/die, etc. That's the excuse for all of all of the CW shows to never really have too many characters address the merger...at least for now.
Oh, and James Whats-his-face had no impact on this series at all, pre or post COIE. No reference, no doubles as of this date. Nothing. He might as well be a temp there for a month who moved on to the next job for as much as he's been erased from the memories/lives of the characters.
GRADE: C.
Season 5 / Episode 10 - "The Bottle Episode"
SG/Kara: Yawn. She never learns, but the showrunners have their agendas regarding her Lena obsession. Day serves what purpose other than a milquetoast / teased love interest? His trying to take on Lex holds no interest. He's just one character too many in an already crowded series.
Lex: He had no idea what Leviathan was/is, but now that he's seeking them out--and one can assume a certain supervillain's double. I expect this to be the tracks laid to eventually get rid of Luthor once and for all, with his "partnership" with Brainy being the worst decision he will make, even though its clear he does not trust him.
Lena: When we last saw Lena, she made the following statement: "I've learned my lesson from all of you." / "We are not friends...". Now--post COIE--the Luthors are supposed to be the public's favorite family...
...but I was wondering if the showrunners--desperate to jump back to grinning "we're pals!" nonsense--would jettison all of the build-up of Lena's true nature. Thankfully, Lena remembers everything, but knowing this show, viewers will be subjected to the tired, "Lena has to make a choice--side with Lex / her mother/continue exploring her own immoral plans, or make an 11th hour change to screw over her family all to grin at Kara / help her with the after-effects of COIE" in another forced connection.
It was enjoyable to see "Alt-Lillian" dress down Lena with ease; she is so to the point and several steps ahead of everyone. Although she made an offer to her son, I hope she remains independent, and not a pawn / enemy of her children. Too predictable.
Eve: Interesting--the "Alt-Eve" is now Rojas' mentor by another name. Creating a virtual world for the "harmed"--sounds like she's been channeling the Talosians' "helpful" offer to Pike. That kind of tech cannot go anywhere good. She has to be playing her own angle.
Nia / Brainy: As we will see in the next episode of Batwoman, the earth mergers did not merge existing people, hence the doubles of Alice, and now Brainy. Regarding the "Big Brain"--something smells like his accessing it will lead to Brainy not being "free" but becoming a form of the real Braniac (suggested by his temporary personality change last season) as in a villain.
NOTES: So, Alex explains the reason why the average person cannot have their true memory restored for fest that they would lose their minds/die, etc. That's the excuse for all of all of the CW shows to never really have too many characters address the merger...at least for now.
Oh, and James Whats-his-face had no impact on this series at all, pre or post COIE. No reference, no doubles as of this date. Nothing. He might as well be a temp there for a month who moved on to the next job for as much as he's been erased from the memories/lives of the characters.
GRADE: C.
That wasn't Eve, "Alt" or otherwise.
Its about time someone (Lex) wants to take advantage of Brainy's knowledge of the future. That alone has to be the ultimate weapon, whether he's using Winn/Toyman or not, but I'm going to go ahead and guess Lex will expect betrayal at some point, so he will take Brainy's revelations with a grain of salt.
Jessie Raith's sister Megan who's normally seen in Hawaii 5-0 has been cast for a guest role in Supergirl so maybe she'll play Braniac-4
Well, I expected that "The Bottle Episode" would involve Kandor in some way, and I was close -- the same idea of Brainiac bottling cities, but revised to his whole species bottling whole planets. And the bottled planet ends up stored in the Fortress of Solitude for safekeeping, a nod to Kandor.
It's bothersome that the characters were talking about the whole multiverse ceasing to exist, when we know from the closing montage of Crisis that it is still out there. It's just a few Earths that merged, and all the other distinct worlds are still there. (Obviously the ongoing ones like Lucifer, Titans, Doom Patrol, and the DCEU still exist, and the producers confirmed that Smallville's world still exists, so presumably the rest do as well.) And it's odd that they don't have the means to determine that, since we saw them freely scanning the multiverse in Crisis, and back in Arrow a few months ago we saw that even some random disreputable Earth-1 scientist had the tech to determine that Earth-2 was destroyed. So it's a strange storytelling choice to have the characters believing something that we know is untrue, and not to give any indication within the episode that they're wrong. It confuses the issue.
But they made an interesting choice with Brainy to reset him to something more faithful to his comics incarnation, and to explain why he'd been different from it before. It's certainly an improvement to his makeup design, and a simplification, so I hope that means we see him in his true form more often now. His constant use of an image inducer to look human is something that's never made a lot of story or character sense, and I figured it was something they only did to spare Jesse Rath from having to spend so much time in the makeup chair. But now that it's just green paint and a wig, it should be a much quicker makeup to apply, so there's less reason not to use it, and with his greater self-acceptance, there's even less character reason for him to hide his true form.
I'm also a little disappointed they got rid of Female Brainy so quickly. She was the most impressive one of the bunch, and kinda hot. And it was a nice touch to cast Rath's sister as his gender-swapped doppelganger. They've played brother and sister before, but never the same character.
Although the revelation that Brainy's really green and that the "dots" on his forehead aren't a natural part of him raises questions about Brainiac-8/Indigo from season 1. She also had 3 forehead lights and was deep blue (or rather, indigo), but surely those weren't the same kind of behavioral inhibitors, since she was hardcore evil. There's also the unresolved question of how Brainiac-8 existed in the past/present if Brainiac-5 is from 1000 years in the future.
But then, a lot of plot threads from season 1 have been ignored ever since -- Maxwell Lord, General Lane, the Omegahedron, etc. And now that the timeline's been rewritten, they're even less likely to be revisited.
It's bothersome that the characters were talking about the whole multiverse ceasing to exist, when we know from the closing montage of Crisis that it is still out there. It's just a few Earths that merged, and all the other distinct worlds are still there. (Obviously the ongoing ones like Lucifer, Titans, Doom Patrol, and the DCEU still exist, and the producers confirmed that Smallville's world still exists, so presumably the rest do as well.) And it's odd that they don't have the means to determine that, since we saw them freely scanning the multiverse in Crisis, and back in Arrow a few months ago we saw that even some random disreputable Earth-1 scientist had the tech to determine that Earth-2 was destroyed. So it's a strange storytelling choice to have the characters believing something that we know is untrue, and not to give any indication within the episode that they're wrong. It confuses the issue.
But they made an interesting choice with Brainy to reset him to something more faithful to his comics incarnation, and to explain why he'd been different from it before. It's certainly an improvement to his makeup design, and a simplification, so I hope that means we see him in his true form more often now. His constant use of an image inducer to look human is something that's never made a lot of story or character sense, and I figured it was something they only did to spare Jesse Rath from having to spend so much time in the makeup chair. But now that it's just green paint and a wig, it should be a much quicker makeup to apply, so there's less reason not to use it, and with his greater self-acceptance, there's even less character reason for him to hide his true form.
I'm also a little disappointed they got rid of Female Brainy so quickly. She was the most impressive one of the bunch, and kinda hot. And it was a nice touch to cast Rath's sister as his gender-swapped doppelganger. They've played brother and sister before, but never the same character.
Although the revelation that Brainy's really green and that the "dots" on his forehead aren't a natural part of him raises questions about Brainiac-8/Indigo from season 1. She also had 3 forehead lights and was deep blue (or rather, indigo), but surely those weren't the same kind of behavioral inhibitors, since she was hardcore evil. There's also the unresolved question of how Brainiac-8 existed in the past/present if Brainiac-5 is from 1000 years in the future.
But then, a lot of plot threads from season 1 have been ignored ever since -- Maxwell Lord, General Lane, the Omegahedron, etc. And now that the timeline's been rewritten, they're even less likely to be revisited.
I believe she was the immortal Leviathan leader who usurped control from Mitch Pileggi a few episodes back.
You believe correctly, sir!
That's right -- Gamemnae, played by Cara Buono. Although Andrea introduced her by an alias I don't remember.
That bugged me too.
Meagan Rath is a regular on Hawaii Five-0, so one episode was probably all she had time to do.
What exactly did she say that made our Brainy decide to dump Nia? I missed some of that conversation.
The reference to the Anti-Life Equation was unexpected. Have we gotten any other references to Darkseid or Apocalypse before? I don't remember any off hand, or at least none as explicit as this.
I was surprised to see Lillian is also seen as heroic by the general public, but I guess if Lex is it makes sense the other Luthors would be too.
Seeing the alternate Brainys was fun, and the whole thing with dopplegangers ending up on our Earth is a nice way to deal with the aftermath of the Crisis.
The big reveal about the dots on Brainy's head suppressing his emotions was an interesting new development for him. Jesse Rath did a really good job in this one, with the two different alternate Brainys, and he even seemed to deliver his dialogue a bit differently ones the dots on his head were gone. I definitely like the new green makeup better. I'm very curious to see where him working with Lex will lead, with his emotions more free, I could see Lex ending up a bad influence on him.
I think it was something to the effect that he needed to operate alone without distraction so he could use all his newly unlocked brain power to defeat Leviathan. Kind of a Jedi thing, I guess.
I don't think we have. The only previous mention of anything Darkseid-related was to Intergang and Bruno Mannheim, but purely as Earthbound entities.
I like it that this Lex's one redeeming attribute is that he genuinely seems to care for his family, or at least Lena and Lillian. It gives him a nice degree of nuance, and it's a good reflection of Silver/Bronze Age Lex, whose one noble trait was his love of Lena "Thorul" and his determination to make sure the pure, innocent Lena was never tainted by his crimes or learned that she was the sister of the world's greatest supervillain.
He definitely seemed more together and less hyper. But I like him hyper. The theatricality of his delivery is a lot of fun.
There have been allusions -- the whole "Coluan tradition of bottling planets" business being one -- but no direct references that I know of.
It might be nice to establish Brainiac as an old foe of Superman's in his spinoff. I've always found it problematical that Superman has been around for so long on Earth-38 (now Earth-Prime) but never faced most of his familiar villains, who were mainly used as Supergirl adversaries. The only villains we know he's fought in the past are Lex, Zod, Doomsday, and that Reactron guy from that early episode (and maybe Mongul, since he's been to Warworld). Of course, the universe reboot allows them to tweak his history if they want.
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