Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

It's a cake, it is specifically made to be picked at.

 

It's my birthday too! XD

That's just Picard's vision of a perfect family. Ardra also turned Victorian for him XD

 

Two days early for mine.

 

Three months late for mine.
(or nine months early)

 

First Review:

https://www.cleveland.com/entertain...tellar-in-slow-building-star-trek-picard.html


(Yet another reason to bring in Seven of Nine -- get the audience to stay beyond the first three episodes! )

 

It remains to be seen whether this will apply to either this series or the critical reaction to it, and I'm not saying this to be the case with the above review--but it has often puzzled me how critics who will happily sit enraptured through the quietest drama become confused or bored when a quiet drama occurs in a science fiction or fantasy context. What in any other context would be drama becomes "nothing is happening--it's just people talking!"

Again, not saying that's the case here, but I wonder if people expecting action will be put off by the apparently deliberate pacing of Picard?

 

Absolutely spot on.

My (brief) thoughts --

Spoiler

It's very hard to get a handle on what this show is actually about or what it will look like episode to episode. It's like watching one and a half acts of your typical hour of TV.

The first three episodes really are a protracted table-setting. It feels like they could have easily accomplished in 2 (heck, maybe even one) what it takes them three episodes to do.

The pacing is frustrating and yet the plotting is simultaneously simplistic and overly complicated. We have to keep trying to remember what the stakes are and why Picard is doing anything. His actions seem very far removed from the massive events in the backstory.

 

The first two episodes of DSC were a prologue to the series proper. I have no issue with the idea of the first three episodes of PIC being set up for what the series will be once it gets going. If it's a 10-hour movie, then the first three episodes are Act I, and the first act is always setting things up.

To put it a simpler way:
Act I sets up the conflict.
Act II is the conflict.
Act III resolves the conflict.

 

I'll see your Nu Shooz and raise you one Carly Simon.

"Anticipation ... is keeping me waiting ... "

 

Disco episode 3 also was still part of setting up the story, cause only at the end of E3 we learned about the spore drive and what makes Disco unique. To me, E1-2 were a prologue or prelude, and E3 was the 'actual' pilot.

 

I was just thinking if there is a reason why they only showed glimpses of the Enterprise-D, and not the E...

When they started production CBS and Paramount were still split companies, right? So because of the fact that the TNG films are properties of PP and all of the series belong to CBS they only had rights to make use of TNG designs like ten forward or the holographic Ent-D at the Starfleet Command Center...
What do you think?
Or simply because of the fact that fans prefer TNG as a series over the films?

But in one dream sequence Data wears the TNG uniform and while playing Poker he wears the FC uniform... (which was also used heavily on DS9 from midseason 5 onwards).

 

I’ve seen a lot of things recently that have stated CBS owned everything, they just couldn’t make movies, so Paramount were licensing characters and such from CBS to use? If that’s the case, presumably the Ent-E was absolutely fine to use, it’s just not as identifiable with Trek as the D is.

 

Okay. Good point. So we will see.

 

An Enterprise-E model was also on display at the Picard museum CBS had at a few conventions, the model might actually be in the show somewhere.

IIRC that’s how the actual writers/producers described it too

 

Well, that model wouldn't be (unless it is sitting on someone's desk), as these shows are exclusively CGI now where space content is concerned.

 

Perhaps They scanned the model and made a CGI rendering of it?