I'm kinda over his style of starship design. I would like to see another illustrator take a crack at designing new ships.
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I'm kinda over his style of starship design. I would like to see another illustrator take a crack at designing new ships.
The problem is that the producers think he is some hotshot ship designer when in truth most of his work is very derivative.
agreed. i like eaves' work from the 90s and he basically rose to the challenge of designing distinct, new ships to fill out the federation fleet in discovery. but they're distinct, new john eaves ships and i think it'd be nice if we got something brand new.
Wait, but Eaves designed the Enterprise-E and similar classes, didn't he? Isn't that what people want for starships in Picard?
E is not exactly amazing. Eaves is fine, but his designs are rather samey. Sharp and angular. No matter what era, no matter what species, they look distinctly eavesian. Personally I'd like to post TNG ships to follow the style of galaxy class, more flowing organic shapes. I think that would communicate the high tech better.
it's at least an opportunity to show a new generation of ships being on the cusp of the 25th century and all. just like probert created a new design language for TNG and the 24th century, a new designer (or eaves if he's able to) could create something fresh for this period in trek.
i'm concerned everything is going to look like discovery and since the only ships we've seen thus far are literally from discovery, welp...
Can you give examples? Sometimes it makes sense to refine an existing design, and I think he was very good at it - the D4 and D5 as predecessors to the classic Klingon battlecruiser, the Enterprise B that had to reuse the old Excelsior miniature, Valdore as an enhanced version of the D'deridex... But there's also ships of his that look like nothing I've seen before, such as the T'Plana Hath, the Enterprise E, or some of the Son'a ships.
Almost all my favorite starships are Eaves' sleek and modern designs from the TNG movies, yet almost all the ships he designed for Discovery are among my least favorite. Somehow they don't look very Eaves-y at all to me. It appears to depend a lot on what style he's asked to draw, and the more angular and less graceful ships that seem to have been required for DIS are not his strength. I hope that PIC finally returns to the visual style of the TNG movie ships - they still look more up to date to me than everything we've seen in the past 15 years - or at least uses those old Eaves designs as a starting point.
where's the fun in that?Perhaps the handwringing can wait until after the premier
I already predict that the first episode of PIC will urinate on my childhood and travel back in time to kick me in the nuts. There might also be the theft of my favorite childhood granola bar or candy.
I imagine while I'm watching the show, Patrick Stewart himself will break into my house and steal my TOS/TNG Blu-ray's.
He already has.
Indeed. They really do look like they could be early 25th Century ships, don't they?
The Enterprise-E is the only standard 24th Century Starfleet ship he designed for the shows/movies.
All the other new designs out of the TNG movies were by other designers.
I say 'standard' because he also design the holoship in insurrection and a couple shuttles.
He did design a handful of 24th Century ships for the original version of Star Trek Online however.
They really don't.
I'd love to see Doug Drexler design some ships for PIC. He did a great job with past ships in the franchise like the NX-01 and the Conestoga from 2069.
Eh? If someone told me the DSC designs weren't done by Eaves I'd believe them. None of them look like anything he had done before Discovery.
