If Picard doesn't talk about Beverely or Wesley Crusher will it be a mistake?

[Jayson1]

Like bad writing or making the character look bad. Especially if the girl is his daughter. If all of sudden he get parental then what does that mean in terms of how he feels for Wesley Crusher who he basically looked at as a son. Plus Beverly is his closest friend and someone he is in love with. Though I do think it would be interesting if they had gotten married and divorced like in "All Good Things."


Jason

 

[Blooded]

Like bad writing or making the character look bad. Especially if the girl is his daughter. If all of sudden he get parental then what does that mean in terms of how he feels for Wesley Crusher who he basically looked at as a son. Plus Beverly is his closest friend and someone he is in love with. Though I do think it would be interesting if they had gotten married and divorced like in "All Good Things."

This show cannot be so self-referential that it becomes inaccessible. In truth, there was nothing shown to us between Picard and Crusher that would warrant him speaking about her in 2399 to people that have not met her. Even less reason to bring up Wesley.

Nearly 20 years have passed since we last saw this crew together. For all we know, Beverly was reassigned when the Enterprise was being repaired in space dock, and Picard barely saw her again since.

She genuinely does not need to be mentioned until such time as she shows up on the show, assuming Stewart gets his wish of visiting each member of the TNG cast during the run of Picard. And, given her career path, its very likely we could see her without it feeling forced in any way. But until then? No, it's not bad writing if we hear nothing about her.

 

[Jayson1]

This show cannot be so self-referential that it becomes inaccessible. In truth, there was nothing shown to us between Picard and Crusher that would warrant him speaking about her in 2399 to people that have not met her. Even less reason to bring up Wesley.

Nearly 20 years have passed since we last saw this crew together. For all we know, Beverly was reassigned when the Enterprise was being repaired in space dock, and Picard barely saw her again since.

She genuinely does not need to be mentioned until such time as she shows up on the show, assuming Stewart gets his wish of visiting each member of the TNG cast during the run of Picard. And, given her career path, its very likely we could see her without it feeling forced in any way. But until then? No, it's not bad writing if we hear nothing about her.

At some point though you have to wonder why he went so cold that he would even distant himself from his friends. Why aren't they always trying to help him heal. Plus if he does have a daughter it seems like Wesley Crusher would come up I mean I assume that they will bond and that means talking about their pasts. Which also will be strange if they sort of pretend like Picard has no past of importance beyond Nemesis and space 9/11. Why wouldn't he also be subjected to the hero worship for someone of his fame and stature. . How he went from Nemesis to living in the Vineyard will feel strange if they pretend like nobody is out their that gives a shit about him who want to help.


Jason

 

[TrekMD]

I don't expect to hear him mention Beverly unless she comes up in conversation with Troi and Riker during this season. If they do bring the character back for a cameo, then I'm sure we'll hear more about her before that happens.

 

[Jayson1]

Another thing is if he doesn't talk about his past what in the world will he talk about. Is it just going to be all plot talk? Is he going to talk in generalities about "the old days."

Jason

 

[Blooded]

At some point though you have to wonder why he went so cold that he would even distant himself from his friends. Why aren't they always trying to help him heal.

People grow apart, particularly when the main thing that was holding them together was their job, regardless of their friendship. We just have to look at the scenes of Picard and Riker that we've already had snippets of, to get the feeling that neither man has had contact with the other in a long time.

Plus if he does have a daughter it seems like Wesley Crusher would come up I mean I assume that they will bond and that means talking about their pasts.

There is currently no evidence at all to suggest that Dahj is Picard's daughter. In fact, the more we find out, the less and less likely it becomes. And beyond Wesley's presence at the Riker wedding, we don't know if Picard has had anything to do with Wesley for almost 30 years. It's very unlikely Wesley could be brought up in any way, beyond an unnamed reference, that would feel like anything other than an unnecessary throwback.

Which also will be strange if they sort of pretend like Picard has no past of importance beyond Nemesis and space 9/11. Why wouldn't he also be subjected to the hero worship for someone of his fame and stature.

Except, the footage we've seen suggests that this is exactly what they're going to give us: a Picard who has been forgotten. We've already got a scene at Starfleet HQ where the officer at the desk doesn't know who Picard is.

How he went from Nemesis to living in the Vineyard will feel strange if they pretend like nobody is out their that gives a shit about him who want to help.

They're not pretending that, at all. The whole show appears to be about this ragtag group that he puts together to help him with his mission. We've also seen that Riker is quite happy to give him advice, too.

But to shoehorn in references to Crusher and Wesley? Just not needed.

 

[eschaton]

At least we know now - given Stewart has said it's his hope all the original cast come back as guests eventually - that the writers didn't decide to kill off Beverly off camera to give his character some added pathos.

 

[BillJ]

At least we know now - given Stewart has said it's his hope all the original cast come back as guests eventually - that the writers didn't decide to kill off Beverly off camera to give his character some added pathos.

She could simply be another element of his conscious, or use flashbacks. There are ways to use characters that don't require them to be alive in 2399.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Picard knew Wesley for 3 and a bit years, then saw him a couple of times before Wesley evolved into some travelling showman

Beverley he's got more history thanks to killing her husband, he may well have not seen her for 15 years

However, he's still close to Will + Dee, and is still mourning Data, with far more attachment to them than we saw to the Stargazer crew.

She could simply be another element of his conscious, or use flashbacks. There are ways to use characters that don't require them to be alive in 2399.

He could engage Leah Brahms on a technical problem, and she could get the computer to create a hologram of Geordi

 

[locborg]

No

 

[Greg Cox]

I would hope that Beverly would be mentioned, at least in passing, but I'm not going to be bent out of shape if they don't get around to it. PICARD has its own story to tell and its own characters to introduce; that's job one. Giving us a complete rundown on the current status of the TNG cast is secondary.

And in terms of realism, I'm still have fond memories and occasionally get in touch with people from my past, but it's not as though I mention them all the time (unless they're Richard Matheson ), or they come up in casual conversation.

"Hey, remember my old college roommate? Just felt like bringing him up again."

 

[Jayson1]

But the TNG crew are suppose to be more than co-workers. They love each other like family. Remember when Picard finally joined he poker game and realized he was with people he loved.


Jason

 

[eschaton]

I would hope that Beverly would be mentioned, at least in passing, but I'm not going to be bent out of shape if they don't get around to it. PICARD has its own story to tell and its own characters to introduce; that's job one. Giving us a complete rundown on the current status of the TNG cast is secondary.

And in terms of realism, I'm still have fond memories and occasionally get in touch with people from my past, but it's not as though I mention them all the time (unless they're Richard Matheson ), or they come up in casual conversation.

"Hey, remember my old college roommate? Just felt like bringing him up again."

If Jean Luc and Beverly are estranged in some manner, it would make sense for Picard to bring it up with Will and Deanna - either to ask how she's doing, or if they have fallen out of touch, wonder how she's doing, and then get told about...whatever happened.

 

[Paul Weaver]

But the TNG crew are suppose to be more than co-workers. They love each other like family. Remember when Picard finally joined he poker game and realized he was with people he loved.

And that's reflected by him visiting his old first officer and councillor nearly 20 years after they parted ways. He didn't have such a relationship with his old Stargazer pals (he hadn't seen the Crushers for a decade and never mentioned anyone else)

In my day to day life at work, I rarely mention what my brother or sister are upto

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

I'm sure we'll hear more than enough Wesley references when Will Wheaton hosts "The Ready Room" for PIC (which is confirmed).

 

[Q_The_Misanthrope]

At some point though you have to wonder why he went so cold that he would even distant himself from his friends...... How he went from Nemesis to living in the Vineyard will feel strange if they pretend like nobody is out their that gives a shit about him who want to help. Jason

I think having been a captain for so long and being in a position where he kept himself a certain distance from the crew this may have carried over into his personal life. Especially if circumstances that we have not been made fully aware of yet have made him a little more contemplative and/or reclusive. I don't think it's any kind of coldness from him towards others.

The trailers seem to indicate that he misses being out there amongst the stars. Being retired or even possibly forced out of Starfleet puts him in a position where no one could help him even if he sought it out.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't see a reason why. 20 years is a long time, and it could have the potential to be too self-referring as to not allow the actual story progress forward.

I think it is a neutral point but could potential be very bad writing if it takes away from the rest of the story just to reminisce.

 

[Tenacity]

Picard will tell frequent stories about the crazy redhead he was once married too.

 

[BillJ]

But the TNG crew are suppose to be more than co-workers. They love each other like family. Remember when Picard finally joined he poker game and realized he was with people he loved.

Jason

Even family can drift apart.

 

[Greg Cox]

Even family can drift apart.

And they don't even need to be estranged or anything, just going about their own lives all over the Quadrant and getting in touch once in a while. Picard can still be on perfectly good terms with the Crushers without them coming up in conversation on a frequent basis.

I'm sure Beverly gets the 23rd century equivalent of a Christmas card every year, and maybe they get together for brunch every few years when circumstances allow.