You obviously missed the one sitting near Picard in "Captain's Holiday".
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You obviously missed the one sitting near Picard in "Captain's Holiday".
DOH! - Yes I did, but in my defense, that's one TNG episode I've never really liked, so I doubt I've watched it more than twice.
The Vulcans seemed to be quite powerful. They may not have been in Star Fleet that much but they are policy movers and shakers. Just because they aren't captaining 95% of Star Fleet doesn't mean they don't matter.
Sarek and Spock were negotiating important treaties during TOS and TNG. Sarek's actions, if I'm not mistaken led to the Federation/Maquis split.(TNG: Reunification part 1).
They have the Humans and the other Fed members do the fighting and any other military heavy lifting. This might be why the Romulans are so jealous.
The Hirogen weren't as cool when they ran out of tall actors to play the characters, and then were destroyed by a weak two-part episode that came far too late in Voyager's run.
But, even with the short Hirogen in 'The Killing Game,' I still love how the arc initially played out, so, thus the name.
But, even with the short Hirogen in 'The Killing Game,' I still love how the arc initially played out, so, thus the name.
I wish they kept the Star Trek III Klingons. But, TNG Klingons and Worf were the only reason to watch TNG.
The TNG Ferengi were not interesting.
TNG ruined the Borg after The Best of Both Worlds ie they weren't scary.
I don't understand how ENT ruined the Gorn. How long were they on screen?
They looked great. Better than the "Among The Clans", and "The Gorn Crisis" versions.The Hirogens were just more buff Klingons.
The Kazons were just smaller Klingons.
I personally like ADB's Prime Directive continuity for TNG-onward: Klingons become Romulans, Romulans become Tholians, and Cardassians become Klingons. :thumbsup:
But that's changing ... mass media has begin to dilute distinct accents throughout America, and probably elsewhere. Linguists have done studies on this. In another hundred years, it's likely everyone in America will sound like the anchors of tonight's NBC Nightly News.
If, at some point in the future, Earth creates a single world government with an official language and global media, it's possible that by the time we discovered warp travel, we'd all look and sound much more alike, too. As technology advances and the world gets smaller, more and more intermarriage is happening ... cultural dilution is the norm all over the world. It's easy for me to believe that much more technologically advanced societies would gradually become rather uniform, even if they began more diverse.
RobertScorpio
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Saxman1 said:
I have to disagree. DS9 saved the Feringi. They were never a good race on TNG, but Quark gave them depth.
How true! They were like mentally challenged Klingons!
Agreed. The TNG Ferengi were hilariously stupid. I like the DS9 version much better.
As for the original post, I think Klingons were ruined by DS9 (as much as I love the show). Can't stand them anymore, they're stupid, two-dimensional, horribly predictable and annoying like hell.
Exterminate! *Sheesh*
As for the original post, I think Klingons were ruined by DS9 (as much as I love the show). Can't stand them anymore, they're stupid, two-dimensional, horribly predictable and annoying like hell.
Exterminate! *Sheesh*
It's interesting to think about where the TNG Ferengi could have gone, if they'd actually been written well in the beginning.
I try not to get into the debate on the Borg being "ruined" by any one series, as it's a can of worms. The truth is that one can say they were overpowered from the start, and the writers always had trouble using them effectively. That's why the line about them never acting piecemeal in "Q Who?" was ignored in most later eps in favor of the Borg always sending a lone ship against the heroes so they'd win.
I try not to get into the debate on the Borg being "ruined" by any one series, as it's a can of worms. The truth is that one can say they were overpowered from the start, and the writers always had trouble using them effectively. That's why the line about them never acting piecemeal in "Q Who?" was ignored in most later eps in favor of the Borg always sending a lone ship against the heroes so they'd win.
If they'd stayed true to other stuff said in "Q Who?" it wouldn't be so bad, since Q said the Borg were just one threat amongst many in the Galaxy, not the biggest. Meaning there well could be other races out there stronger or equal to them fighting them and keeping them in check. So in VOY they could just tell stories of lots of super-DQ races fighting off the Borg or equaling them and it wouldn't make the Borg less impressive so VOY survivng run-ins wouldn't be so bad if they used those other races in the stories to explain why, instead they gave into hype.
Well, Voyager didn't pass through much of the Delta Quadrant (since it basically went in a pretty straight line) so out of the 10000+ species the Borg had encountered there are probably quite a few that are causing them a problem and draining their resources, like 8472.
The Borg were overused, but not half as annoying as the Klingons. In fact, they might have been less than frightening at times, but at least they didn't use "honour" in every bloody sentence.
Although, there was that "assimilate" bit. Like "logic" with the Vulcans or "Prophets" with the Bajorans.
Although, there was that "assimilate" bit. Like "logic" with the Vulcans or "Prophets" with the Bajorans.
RobertScorpio
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I don't know. The 'honor' stuff was just as much apart of the Klingons as the 'we will assimilate' you non-sence was for the Borg. I think, not counting Enterprise, the Klingons were treated far better than the limp Borg. That race was utterly ruined from the moment they gave the Borg a 'leader' (The Queen) IMO
The Borg were ruined in TNG when they added "Hugh" and then the Lore episode.
It got worse in VOY with the Borg babe, the Borg kids, the Borg Queen, Unimatrix Zero, and so forth.....
Total overkill and misuse.
Species 8472 were ruined with the Boothby and Hirogen episodes.
It got worse in VOY with the Borg babe, the Borg kids, the Borg Queen, Unimatrix Zero, and so forth.....
Total overkill and misuse.
Species 8472 were ruined with the Boothby and Hirogen episodes.
Well, I think Piller had the right idea when he said that the Borg shouldn't have made another appearance after BOBW. There was even an idea floating around that the one Cube housed their entire race (there were not that many of them) and the all died from the self-destruct.
As for VOY using the Borg lots, well the Delta Quadrant is their home so naturally we'd encounter lots of ex-Borg or smaller Borg groups. It wouldn't make sense NOT to have them.
As for 8472, they had to wrap them up somehow otherwise you had these guys capable of wiping out the Galaxy left unchecked, They could't have some mega-war arc because UPN forbaded arc stories, so it had to be a single episode thing. No way for VOY to win with fighting so diplomacy was the only alternative.
As for VOY using the Borg lots, well the Delta Quadrant is their home so naturally we'd encounter lots of ex-Borg or smaller Borg groups. It wouldn't make sense NOT to have them.
As for 8472, they had to wrap them up somehow otherwise you had these guys capable of wiping out the Galaxy left unchecked, They could't have some mega-war arc because UPN forbaded arc stories, so it had to be a single episode thing. No way for VOY to win with fighting so diplomacy was the only alternative.
I take it back.
It's not so much a problem that the Borg appeared on VOY, but rather they were overused and misused.
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