I was disappointed that Neelix left Voyager

[jmidnight_99]

Honey, this is a Star Trek board.

We're the ORIGINAL obsessed fans. We're the people who design our basements to look like the bridge of the Enterprise.

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We have fights over how the armrests of the Enterprise-E are affronts to canon!

You know it!!! Can I see your basement?

 

[Danja]

You know it!!! Can I see your basement?

I'm in Florida. I don't have a basement.

However, I DO have a Seven of Nine Christmas ornament :

 

[Prax]

The only ornament hotter than the Christmas lights

 

[Shaka Zulu]

After seeing it back when the show originally aired. I started bingeing the show because I had forgotten so much. It was so much fun to watch it again like it was the first time (I could have sworn Seven got with Kim by the end. .oh well) Anyway, I can't get over how Neelix left Voyager after years with this crew as his family. They set it up pretty good with his own people and a woman to give him a good excuse, but I feel it just wasn't enough. He barely knew these people, woman and her child. Plus the environment was sad. No sky or land. Depressing. Plus, Neelix had so many other opportunities to leave. I would have liked him to see Earth. Not sure why the writers decided to let him jump ship.

He had nothing to stay with them for, he wasn't a human being, and he would've been out of place on Earth or any other world of the Federation. Where he was with this colony of his own people was good for him and it gave him a chance to fight for his people's freedom from the Haakonians and to eventually free Talax from the control of the Haakonians. The same thing could be said of Kes and her leaving Voyager.

 

[RocketQueen]

I just watched Voyager for the first time and I was super sad to see Neelix leave the ship. The crew was his family and I don't think he would/should have left them so...easily?...although, I am not sure that "easily" is the right word. With that said though, his farewell scene with the crew definitely made me cry! I am such a softie!

 

[jmidnight_99]

I just watched Voyager for the first time and I was super sad to see Neelix leave the ship. The crew was his family and I don't think he would/should have left them so...easily?...although, I am not sure that "easily" is the right word. With that said though, his farewell scene with the crew definitely made me cry! I am such a softie!

But weren't you happy that he found someone, and something to do, and his own people who needed him??

 

[Tracy Trek]

Where he was with this colony of his own people was good for him and it gave him a chance to fight for his people's freedom from the Haakonians and to eventually free Talax from the control of the Haakonians. The same thing could be said of Kes and her leaving Voyager.

Talax was almost 40,000 light years away from this asteroid they had settled on. Which if I recall correctly, they intended on staying on that asteroid.

So how were they going to help their home planet free itself from the Haakonians? Were they going to pack up and leave? Because there is nothing in the episode to indicate that Neelix or any of the others planned to do that.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Talax was almost 40,000 light years away from this asteroid they had settled on. Which if I recall correctly, they intended on staying on that asteroid.

So how were they going to help their home planet free itself from the Haakonians? Were they going to pack up and leave? Because there is nothing in the episode to indicate that Neelix or any of the others planned to do that.

Presumably, they found a starship and decided to travel back to Talax.

 

[jmidnight_99]

Talax was almost 40,000 light years away from this asteroid they had settled on. Which if I recall correctly, they intended on staying on that asteroid.

So how were they going to help their home planet free itself from the Haakonians? Were they going to pack up and leave? Because there is nothing in the episode to indicate that Neelix or any of the others planned to do that.

Often, parts of the story are left on the cutting room floor. I don't know for sure if this happened specifically on this episode, but lots of movies have "director's cuts" for this exact reason. I remember "The Butterfly Effect" director's cut had restored scenes and a different ending that made sense of the entire plot of the movie. The released version left major plot lines unresolved, and the entire resolution out of the story!

Presumably, they found a starship and decided to travel back to Talax.

Didn't they dismantle only two of the three ships they had?

 

[Tracy Trek]

Didn't they dismantle only two of the three ships they had?

However many ships they came there in, they had dismantled all but one of them to use to build their habitat. And I don't think the one remaining ship was big enough to take all of them away from the asteroid.

 

[jmidnight_99]

However many ships they came there in, they had dismantled all but one of them to use to build their habitat. And I don't think the one remaining ship was big enough to take all of them away from the asteroid.

If they somehow found or invented a way to liberate their planet, why would they all need to return at the same time to deliver it?

 

[Shaka Zulu]

My guess is, they build a ship with whatever parts they can scrounge up (from passing visitors), then they all go to a planet where they can settle down and get their collective bearings from being locked up in a tin can for a long time. After they settle down, they build up their civilization to a technological point, then they settle off in ships to retake Talax from the Haakonians.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I think living on an asteroid base was pretty cool. Yes, it was a sudden and ultra-quick decision on his part with zero foreshadowing but that was the episodic nature of Voyager and a fundamental issue with the show itself rather than the fault of the episode.

Nowadays (and back then on most shows) they'd have it all happen as part of a season-long arc with loads of foreshadowing and set up, and it'd seem more natural.

 

[RocketQueen]

But weren't you happy that he found someone, and something to do, and his own people who needed him??

I mean yes...but there is also a part of me who wanted him to open a killer restaurant at Starfleet Headquarters and find himself a Klingon wife.

 

[jmidnight_99]

I mean yes...but there is also a part of me who wanted him to open a killer restaurant at Starfleet Headquarters and find himself a Klingon wife.

Oh dear.

 

[jmidnight_99]

I think living on an asteroid base was pretty cool. Yes, it was a sudden and ultra-quick decision on his part with zero foreshadowing but that was the episodic nature of Voyager and a fundamental issue with the show itself rather than the fault of the episode.

Voyager didn't need him anymore, Naomi didn't need him anymore, Kes was gone.

He met a group of Talaxians, discovered that they needed him, and he met a woman and her son and discovered that they needed him, too.

If you really sit and think about it, he left Voyager exactly the way he entered Voyager. Ready to start an adventure, a new life, and be where he was needed the most with someone he loved. He decided to leave as quickly as he decided to join.

It's "sad" but it's also 100% Neelix.

 

[Prax]

Well, hopefully as soon as Voyager left, Neelix said "Alright guys. We need to build some warships."

"Hey Brax! Would you like to learn how to fly a Starfighter?"

 

[at Quark's]

Of course, Neelix' secret master plan was to commandeer a passing Borg cube, transwarp with it back to Talax and tell the Haakonian Order they have a simple choice: leave their home planet voluntarily and immediately, or be assimilated and subsumed as a species into the Talaxian Taxonomy.

If Janeway hadn't unwittingly thwarted that plan by destroying the Borg Transwarp Hub, I could now be writing some very bad fan fiction about it.

 

[Akiraprise]

Neelix as the voice of the Borg. That would have been an interesting twist. The Queen had a soft spot for Picard. Maybe she also liked Leola Root...needed a morale officer / cook in the Unicomplex and also wanted to jab Janeway by assimilating her crew member. There's some bad fan fiction for you.

 

[Danja]

The Queen had a soft spot for Picard. Maybe she also liked Leola Root...needed a morale officer / cook in the Unicomplex and also wanted to jab Janeway by assimilating her crew member. There's some bad fan fiction for you.

The Borg already assimilated a crew member -- Torres (Unimatrix Zero).