I think it was established somewhere that the reason latinum was used as currency was because it couldn't be replicated.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that are blocks set up where you can't replicate certain things.
Is the Federation a "cashless" society or not?
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that are blocks set up where you can't replicate certain things.
A year ago I asked the same question and someone pointed out to me that there is a book out there that actually shows the salary of each starfleet rank. Obviously it isn’t something needed for them to live, rather something they use to purchase items outside the Federation. Probably how we see DS9 officers with Latinum. They probably converted their credits to them.
Sure, if you are using a federation replicator for civilians that hasn't been hacked.
You can just replicate hydrogen, leave the bugger on, and wait a few hours... Boom.
Troi had to be above a certain rank to be allowed to replicate real chocolate, becuase real chocolate is unhealthy.
You can just replicate hydrogen, leave the bugger on, and wait a few hours... Boom.
Troi had to be above a certain rank to be allowed to replicate real chocolate, becuase real chocolate is unhealthy.
When it comes to Bashir, at least, it was clear that he attached a social stigma to and thus felt embarrassed by his father's history of working menial jobs--enough to lie about his family background above and beyond what was necessary to conceal his genetic enhancement.
What's less clear is where this sense of stigma came from. If you look at the other DS9 characters around him (plenty of whom are from societies which continue to use money the way we do), none of them expressed anything negative about his parents per se after meeting them, making it seem completely internalised on his part.
No.
Dick Bashir was an ordinary man who wanted to be extraordinary, but couldn't quite get there, so he exaggerated or outright lied.
Jules Bashir was an ordinary boy who was happy being ordinary, but his father found a surgeon that transformed Jules into an exaggerated lie called Julian Bashir.
Richards half-assed socialclimbing murdered Jules, and the rinse and repeat, he lied and lied trying to enbiggen his life superficially with a fist full of half truths.
Every lie Richard told obsfuscating his substandard life in the present, reminded Julian that his entire life now is a lie because his father decided that Jules was substandard before he was genetically enhanced.
Wow. I'd forgotten most of the details of that particular episode. You remember it the way I remember any of my favorite TOS episodes, that I'd seen dozens of times.
As I recall, Jules was well below average, that's why his parent had him brain boosted.The original intent might have been to simply bring Jules up to "ordinary," but the end result was superior.
Julian argued that Jules would have caught up, and his parents overreacted, becuase they were ashamed and impatient.
Mum and dad countered that Jules was a pudding brain.
So, there were two perspectives laid down, and obviously the parents were right, but the story I was telling, was why that Julian resented his father and mother.
Mum and dad countered that Jules was a pudding brain.
So, there were two perspectives laid down, and obviously the parents were right, but the story I was telling, was why that Julian resented his father and mother.
I wouldn't go by what Guy says on.....well..... pretty much anything, he tends to have a very unique perspective on things.
I guess Scotty actually did buy a boat.
I think you're misremembering. Wasn't it more that 1) Richard Bashir always claimed he was about to make it big and never did, and 2) as a result, he was always jumping from job to job?
He should have remained at home living off his basic earth income lol
I remember two examples.
See Dick exaggerate.
See Dick lie.
See Julian shine the light of day on the same old lies.
See Julian get a tummy ache from being trapped on the same damn merry go round for thirty years.
See Dick exaggerate.
See Dick lie.
See Julian shine the light of day on the same old lies.
See Julian get a tummy ache from being trapped on the same damn merry go round for thirty years.
If the Bashir's had Picard as a son he would be pleased his father was working to better himself and not be paid for it. Julian was an ungrateful little weasel
But Richard was not improving himself.
I doubt he took a four year course on the subject at a university that his son never heard about before now.
So... his designs are either half assed or those designs were stolen from other people who know how to rig a drainage system that's not going to back up and turn a park into a swimming pool.
He quit or got fired, constantly because he overvalued himself, and couldn't stand being an intermediary for too long before his ego burnt the world down. Remember when Q said that he would join Picard's crew, and Jean-Luc asked if that God would mind having to start as a "lowly crewman"?
On the other hand, hiding on the rim worlds, on the run from Johnny Law every time Julian aced an exam too effortlessly can't have helped Dick grow any career comprehensively, so lets blame Julian for everything wrong with Richard Bashir's life.
I'm inclined to go with Julian's parents on this count, though; he wouldn't have caught up.
The way Bashir himself describes it, he was in the first grade, and couldn't tell the difference between a cat and a dog or, much more troublingly, a tree and a house. That's really serious, probably enough that even the genetic-engineering-shy Federation probably should've considered if it counted as a permissable major health issue (though I can also see the arguments for not doing that, from a disability-rights perspective).
I suppose it's also possible they think it was the kind of thing that should be treated medically, but the state of the art when Julian was a child wouldn't have allowed a professional doctor to bring him up to "normal," and the only potential treatment would have launched him over the top of the 99th percentile for unmodified humans (and, thus, was only available on the black market). Geordi isn't that much older than Julian, and it wasn't until early TNG that the technology existed to grow him working organic eyes, and IIRC, Pulaski was one of a handful of specialists who could do it, if not the only one. Maybe by 2400, a child in Julian's situation could get legal medical treatment in the Federation.
The way Bashir himself describes it, he was in the first grade, and couldn't tell the difference between a cat and a dog or, much more troublingly, a tree and a house. That's really serious, probably enough that even the genetic-engineering-shy Federation probably should've considered if it counted as a permissable major health issue (though I can also see the arguments for not doing that, from a disability-rights perspective).
I suppose it's also possible they think it was the kind of thing that should be treated medically, but the state of the art when Julian was a child wouldn't have allowed a professional doctor to bring him up to "normal," and the only potential treatment would have launched him over the top of the 99th percentile for unmodified humans (and, thus, was only available on the black market). Geordi isn't that much older than Julian, and it wasn't until early TNG that the technology existed to grow him working organic eyes, and IIRC, Pulaski was one of a handful of specialists who could do it, if not the only one. Maybe by 2400, a child in Julian's situation could get legal medical treatment in the Federation.
Assuming such exists, he was lucky he wasn't shipped off to the colonies and a "self-improvement" work camp.
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Considering its the 24th century, special needs education would be available for children like Julian, maybe it was and his parents did not like the idea of their son being 'special'. IRL being a 90's TV production show the idea of special needs education was not 'mainstream'. I guess the Bashirs were not 'enlightened' TNG parents, the sort who work on the starship Enterprise and leave other people to look after their children full time as they wonder around the galaxy. e.g the doctor who killed the crystalline entitity
McCoy in TSFS had the financial means to charter a starship.
That people can live their lives without replicators suggest that a non-replicator economy exists.
Replicators make sense in the isolated environment of a starship or space station, maybe undeveloped colonies too. But people on developed planets would have other options. Robert Picard might not have been all that different from the general Earth population.
The only person I can recall who spoke of having a home replicator as a child was Keiko. That would have been only a few decades prior to TNG.
Maybe the Ishikawa family had more money that most?
Then why do they still have mining? If replicators can make something as intricate as food, metal should be easy.
Maybe it just cheaper to mine it, instead of replicating it in large amounts?
Robert may not have had a replicator... But he sure as ###k had a food synthesizer, which had been around conceivably since 200 years before he started making children, so it was his great grandfathers decision to modernize that much.
If they were also holding out on a synthesizer, that means that they were the weirdo family who was a burden on every one else, since the economy had to bend to keep the Picards lives, as 2 thousand pounds of food per person had to be grown the old fashion way, as well as maybe birthing a limited number of animals for slaughter.
That barely makes sense.
The United Earth probably lied to the Picards.
"Here's a truck load of unsynthesized food, yes, that's right completely unsynthesized food, totally real, it's real food, would I lie to you?"
Similar to how antivaxers should be given free milk by the state.
Special, special, magic milk, that is not full of vaxinated goodness, would i lie to you?
Robert owned a farm.
Maybe he did grow all his own food?
If they were also holding out on a synthesizer, that means that they were the weirdo family who was a burden on every one else, since the economy had to bend to keep the Picards lives, as 2 thousand pounds of food per person had to be grown the old fashion way, as well as maybe birthing a limited number of animals for slaughter.
That barely makes sense.
The United Earth probably lied to the Picards.
"Here's a truck load of unsynthesized food, yes, that's right completely unsynthesized food, totally real, it's real food, would I lie to you?"
Similar to how antivaxers should be given free milk by the state.
Special, special, magic milk, that is not full of vaxinated goodness, would i lie to you?
Robert owned a farm.
Maybe he did grow all his own food?
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