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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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Christopher said:
I just read this yesterday, though it confirmed something I'd already gathered to be the case, that Perlmutter was the obstacle to getting films like Black Panther and Captain Marvel made: https://www.cbr.com/marvel-exec-block-black-panther-captain-marvel/
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He's been an 'issue' for ages. In addition to the above, he was penny pinching with the movies - if he had had his way they'd have been much smaller in scale, and I dare say much less successful.

Civil War with two characters on each side...

:hugegrin:
 
So Holland's Spider-man is slated for one more standalone(Watt's trilogy) and one MCU movie.

Speculating. What could the MCU movie be?


-Not Thor love and Thunder
-Not "The Eternals"

-I think it would be a bit crowded to have Spider-man be the third wheel in Doctor Strange's sequel since they have Elizabeth Olsen already with Cumberbatch.
 
Samurai8472 said:
-I think it would be a bit crowded to have Spider-man be the third wheel in Doctor Strange's sequel since they have Elizabeth Olsen already with Cumberbatch.
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Yet Spidey and Strange tend to associate a lot in the comics, so it would be a logical choice. And as this article points out, both characters have "multiverse" connections in film.
 
On second thought about squeezing in Spider-man into Doctor Strange's sequel....


Doctor Strange- The mystic arts can blur the line between what's real and what's not.

Peter- I know how to tell what's fake and real (Far from home)
 
kitik said:
edit: that said, when was the last new show launched by Marvel Television? I guess it was Cloak and Dagger, which has already finished season 2. Other than Helstrom, they don't have much cooking. Hey, Helstrom was supposed to be part of some sort of Adventure Into Fear branded set of series, right? Whatever that was going to be, I wonder if it's as gone as the Ghost Rider series.
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They do also have the Offenders animated series.
I was surprised when they announced all of the Feige produced Marvel Studios shows for Disney+ and nothing from Loeb and Marvel TV, maybe this move to put all the TV shows under Feige's control too would explain why.
Putting him in charge of all of the TV shows seems like it would add an awful lot of work for Feige, especially since he's going to be branching out to other franchises like Star Wars.
Loeb obviously hasn't had quite the level of success that Feige has, but I've enjoyed most of the TV series he's put together.
 
JD said:
They do also have the Offenders animated series.
I was surprised when they announced all of the Feige produced Marvel Studios shows for Disney+ and nothing from Loeb and Marvel TV, maybe this move to put all the TV shows under Feige's control too would explain why.
Putting him in charge of all of the TV shows seems like it would add an awful lot of work for Feige, especially since he's going to be branching out to other franchises like Star Wars.
Loeb obviously hasn't had quite the level of success that Feige has, but I've enjoyed most of the TV series he's put together.
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Feige might be willing to have his own people he delegates certain stuff to, rather than completely manage everything 100%. Loeb was Perlmutter's Yes-Man.
 
I don't know, he seems to be pretty hands on, but I guess that could just be the impression he likes to give in public.
 
I've never seen anything to indicate that Jeff Loeb was Ike Perlmutter's yes man. His employee, for sure, but that's something else entirely. Besides, I've been under the impression that Perlmutter has been mostly hands off ever since he parted ways with the studio division.
 
JD said:
I only thing I've heard about coming from Ike Permutter was The Inhumans...... and we all saw how that turned out.
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Perlmutter has been on the Marvel Comics board since 1993, apparently, and he was the CEO of Marvel Entertainment from 2005-16 and is now its chairman. He oversaw all of Marvel Studios' productions until 2015, which is why, as I mentioned above, he was able to resist approving films with non-white or non-male leads, as well as being the reason Black Widow was underrepresented in Avengers toys and apparently part of the reason that Edgar Wright walked away from Ant-Man. His decisions have shaped the MCU movies and shows from the beginning, and it's only in the past few years that his influence on the films has ended, though he's still got authority over everything else Marvel-related.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/marvel-studios-ike-perlmutter-kevin-feige

Inhumans didn't work because they gave it to Scott Buck, the same guy responsible for Iron Fist's disappointing first season. Although Perlmutter may have had something to do with that, since he's notoriously stingy and Buck is known for bringing in productions under budget.
 
I know he was in charge of Marvel, but Inhumans is the one thing I've seen specifically referred to as one of his pet projects.
I've heard a lot about his blocking non-white and female lead movies, but I hadn't much about stuff he specifically wanted made other than Inhumans.
 
Christopher said:
Inhumans didn't work because they gave it to Scott Buck, the same guy responsible for Iron Fist's disappointing first season. Although Perlmutter may have had something to do with that, since he's notoriously stingy and Buck is known for bringing in productions under budget.
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Well, that and apparently everyone involved except for Buck and Perlmutter didn't want to make the show in the first place.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Victor von Doom done right would be a great recurring menace in the MCU moving forward.
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Or we could have Victor lead new and old villains in a group someone would call...

The Legion of Doom!!!!

Nerys Myk said:
Too bad they have a habit of killing off villians. I'd like to see The Masters of Evil take on the Avengers.
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Turtletrekker said:
We still have Baron Zemo, who has close ties in the comics to the Masters of Evil. Emil Blonsky is a possibility. Justin Hammer can throw in a few Hammer-roids. Mitchell Carson made off with some of Darren Cross's knock-off Pym particles, which could lead to the Rita DiMara incarnation of Yellowjacket appearing. Mordo. Ten Rings could contribute to the effort. And, of course, I would want to see a few new villains join the mix.
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This is from the new DLC for Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3:
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Blade, Moon Knight, Morbius and Punisher in Curse of the Vampire? I wouldn't mind seeing that in the MCU or at least a branch of it. :)

The Nth Doctor said:
Not only have Marvel and James Gunn quickly buried the hatchet, Marvel did it with a very cool gift to Gunn.
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I hope so, I can't help but think of it as "Hey James, congrats on your first day on Suicide Squad. Remember how much fun you had over here at Marvel...".
 
Turtletrekker said:
Shang-Chi to begin production in November. Filming will take place in Australia and Los Angeles.

https://mcuexchange.com/shang-chi-filming-starts-november/
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Have any of the other MCU movies filmed in LA?

Turtletrekker said:
The first set pics of Gemma Chan as Sersei have surfaced. Note that her "civilian clothes" are the same colors as Sersi's comic book look.

https://fullcirclecinema.com/2019/09/30/gemma-chan-sersi-eternals-2/
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So it looks like at least some of the movie will be taking place on Earth.
 
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