Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths to be 5-Part Crossover

[Tosk]

I'm loving it. Just goes to show how you can totally do a classic-esque Superman costume with modern fabrics without having to add extra crap all over it. The addition of trunks and lack of unnecessary outer-stitching/gauntlets/rib details/the stuff they always add to try and offset the loss of the buckle. I'm not even a big fan of the KC shield, but this is one nice suit. The boots look a little weird in the third shot, but they did in Superman Returns too, so it's an homage.

 

[kirk55555]

He's 39.

Obviously being 3 years older then Cavil is right now, 4 years older then Christopher Reeves was in his last Superman movie, 1 year older then George Reeves was when his show debuted and 1 year older then Kirk Alyn was when he became the first live action Superman makes Brandon Routh an absolute fossil

Comparing him to other (non Superman) heroes, Routh is:

4 years younger then RDJ was when Iron Man 1 came out
1 Year older then Michael Keaton was in the 1989 Batman
2 Years older then Val Kilmer was in Batman Forever
3 Years older then George Clooney in Batman & Robin
5 Years Younger then Ben Affleck in Batman v Superman
The same age Jason Mamoa was in Aquaman
Varying years younger then these members of Suicide Squad's cast: Will Smith, Jared Leto, Jay hernandez (and he's the same age as Joel Kinnaman)
1 Year older then Zachary Levi (from Shazam) is right now
7 Years younger then Paul Rudd was in Ant-Man 1


Also, fun fact, if the Nic Cage Superman film had been made, probably coming out in the very late 90s or early 2000s based on when they were working on it (the script being done around 1996ish), Cage would have been probably between 4 to 1 years younger then Routh is right now. But, yeah, Routh is too old

To be clear, there is no chance of Routh playing Superman in a film at this point, but his age really isn't the main factor, or probably even on the list of major reasons that will never happen.

 

[JD]

That is my only real issue with Routh as Kingdom Come Superman, he's not really not as old as the character is supposed to be.
I've never seen the Superboy show, so I don't know if he was any good, but the actor who played Superboy is 53, which is pretty much right at the age I would pick for the KC Superman. They brought in Kevin Conroy for an older Batman, so there's no reason they couldn't stick to the DCAU actors and gone with Time Daly (63) or George Newbern (54), both of whom I could pull of the character in live action.

 

[Mudd]

To be clear, there is no chance of Routh playing Superman in a film at this point, but his age really isn't the main factor, or probably even on the list of major reasons that will never happen.

Actually, it really is. Dude's past forty by the time the franchise starts shooting its first movie - no Superman movie would be anything other than an attempt to launch a series. And, of course, he looks every year of it.

 

[Sketcher]

Anyone think we'll see Tom Welling in the suit? Honestly all I'm expecting with him, is a CGI shot of a blurry Superman flying to the farm. Cut to a shot of Clark rolling up the sleeves of a flannel shirt. Given the show's mantra, this might be a funny, if annoying callback.

 

[Samurai8472]

Anyone think we'll see Tom Welling in the suit? Honestly all I'm expecting with him, is a CGI shot of a blurry Superman flying to the farm. Cut to a shot of Clark rolling up the sleeves of a flannel shirt. Given the show's mantra, this might be a funny, if annoying callback.

Yeah. You'll never get Welling in the suit. Shame a Superman trio would have been amazing for TV

Routh, Tyler......and one guy with an \S/ spray painted on or red jacket,blue shirt and jeans

The boots look a little weird in the third shot, but they did in Superman Returns too, so it's an homage.

What a difference 13 years make

 

[CorporalClegg]

Yeah. I doubt Welling will be in the suit. I think it's safe to assume KC was included in early draft development with Routh already penciled in, knowing he'd be there anyway and he's a bit more age-appropriate.

I'm guessing all the other nostalgia bait is just going to be simple pop-ins, with Welling and Durance being the longest. Perhaps during a long sequence where the trinity is vibing from Earth to Earth searching for something (or someplace) specific Goldilocks style, with fly-by 'Whatcha up tos?'.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I'm guessing all the other nostalgia bait is just going to be simple pop-ins, .

Probably.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Welling has been taking shit, at cons, for years about how that he crapped the bed.

Maybe he'll do right by us this time?

 

[Christopher]

I'm guessing all the other nostalgia bait is just going to be simple pop-ins, with Welling and Durance being the longest. Perhaps during a long sequence where the trinity is vibing from Earth to Earth searching for something (or someplace) specific Goldilocks style, with fly-by 'Whatcha up tos?'.

I still expect something more like the comic, where we see the Crisis devastating multiple parallel Earths at the start of the story. It built the stakes (and cleared the board) by showing the eradication of established alternate realities that longtime readers would've been familiar with. We already got a hint of something like that with the Earth-90 prologue to Elseworlds last year. And doing it that way means they can shoot the cameos separately whenever the actors happen to be available.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

I hope Routh's Superman will be more-or-less (allowing for the differences in the adaptation) the role of the Earth II Superman from the comic.

 

[Christopher]

I hope they aren't just copying the comic (whose own writer thinks it was terrible) but telling their own story based on its general ideas and tailored to their own universe, characters, and storylines.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Supergirl and the Flash both die in the original Crisis.

It's not a great story to tell faithfully, if you want the Arrowverse to continue without an Arrow either.

 

[Ovation]

Supergirl and the Flash both die in the original Crisis.

It's not a great story to tell faithfully, if you want the Arrowverse to continue without an Arrow either.

I think IF they want to mimic that aspect, then Jay Garrick and Hoecklin-Superman will be the casualties.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Supergirl and the Flash both die in the original Crisis.

It's not a great story to tell faithfully, if you want the Arrowverse to continue without an Arrow either.

Like the classic comic its based on (in name only as far as anyone knows at the moment), the Arrowverse would make its boldest mark since it all started if two of the TV headliners were killed off. That carries real drama, and consequences instead of predictable TV second stringers killed off, and its back to business as usual.. At least with Avengers: Endgame, Stark was one of the three foundations of the MCU and he died, illustrating that no one was too big to fall in a situation the audiences were supposed to believe was the greatest danger ever faced by everyone.

That said, I seriously doubt the Arroverse showrunners will ever have the stones to take that path and set a new course for their shows, in the wonderfully effective way the comic Crisis on Infinite Earths did by cleaning house--for a valid reason.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Like the classic comic its based on (in name only as far as anyone knows at the moment), the Arrowverse would make its boldest mark since it all started if two of the TV headliners were killed off. That carries real drama, and consequences instead of predictable TV second stringers killed off, and its back to business as usual.. At least with Avengers: Endgame, Stark was one of the three foundations of the MCU and he died, illustrating that no one was too big to fall in a situation the audiences were supposed to believe was the greatest danger ever faced by everyone.

That said, I seriously doubt the Arroverse showrunners will ever have the stones to take that path and set a new course for their shows, in the wonderfully effective way the comic Crisis on Infinite Earths did by cleaning house--for a valid reason.

I think that Lena would want to move to an Earth without Luthors and Krptonians, unless there is a Crunch and at the end of this whereafter there is only one composite Earth left.

On one hand Lena can't bring cash with her, there would be subtle differences that would make her money seem counterfiet, but she can take resources like diamonds (or what about art? unknown DaVinci masterpieces for instance), or patent as yet uninvited tech.

 

[Ovation]

I think that Lena would want to move to an Earth without Luthors and Krptonians, unless there is a Crunch and at the end of this whereafter there is only one composite Earth left.

On one hand Lena can't bring cash with her, there would be subtle differences that would make her money seem counterfiet, but she can take resources like diamonds (or what about art? unknown DaVinci masterpieces for instance), or patent as yet uninvited tech.

Sherloque seemed to have little trouble paying debts on one earth with money earned on another one.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Yeah, I always got the impression Wolfman looked back at CoIE with fondness. He might wish he could change some details in hindsight, but that's almost always the case.

And I know the TV version won't be a straight adaptation, which is why I said "more-or-less". But the Earth II Superman was pretty much the elder statesman with a big role in the comic, and I'd rather see Routh have that than the extended cameo of 90's Flash last year.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

About those italics: are you referencing Marv Wolfman from 1985's CRISIS? If so, why DID Wolfman leave that opinion out of the trade paperback reprint I just re-read on Wednesday?

Indeed. I've read enough interviews with him over the decades and have seen him in person to know he has a far different opinion. If a certain someone has a reference, its either taken completely out of context or put through the most turbulent spin machine in history to suit that certain someone's hang up about Crisis on Infinite Earths.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, I always got the impression Wolfman looked back at CoIE with fondness.

I don't remember the source, but I recall seeing a quote from Wolfman saying that the only good thing to come out of it was the paycheck.

And of course the intro to a trade paperback would focus on the positive, since you don't want to discourage people from buying the book.