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The Last Jedi - Actually Widely Hated?

Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
An entire trilogy? One that comes out in three years, an then will wait every two years for each installment???/ Pls don't be naive.. That means Rian's trilogy on paper won't happen for 11 years.. but in reality is dead.. as dead as the Trank Boba Fett
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I have seen absolutely no real evidence that it won't happen. Yes, it will be a while before it comes out, but these days they like to announce stuff in advance, so I'm not surprised they announced it this early.
Now, I will admit there is a chance things could change between now and the end of the GOT guys trilogy that make Lucasfilm decide not to do Johnson's trilogy, but everything I have seen has shown me that they still want to do it.
Do you have any real evidence Johnson's trilogy won't be made? Other than the fact that you don't like TLJ. Pretty much everything I've read has made it look like Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm are happy with Rian Johnson and want to continue working with him.
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
I guarantee you that if (going from the thread title) that if Last Jedi was widely liked, they would have announced RJ's trilogy bny now with names and dates.
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Probably not, they have four other movies coming out first, and they are going to want to focus on them first.
 
JD said:
I have seen absolutely no real evidence that it won't happen. Yes, it will be a while before it comes out, but these days they like to announce stuff in advance, so I'm not surprised they announced it this early.
Now, I will admit there is a chance things could change between now and the end of the GOT guys trilogy that make Lucasfilm decide not to do Johnson's trilogy, but everything I have seen has shown me that they still want to do it.
Do you have any real evidence Johnson's trilogy won't be made? Other than the fact that you don't like TLJ. Pretty much everything I've read has made it look like Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm are happy with Rian Johnson and want to continue working with him.

Probably not, they have four other movies coming out first, and they are going to want to focus on them first.
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There's no "evidence" beyond what people want to believe. Johnson said as recently as, what, a month or so ago that he's still working on it.

Yeah, even in this day and age, there's no way Disney would have friggin' release dates on that thing yet when it is that far off.

But, people will latch onto any "evidence", no matter how scant or nonexistent, to reinforce their worldview.
 
The next set of film projects was the other trilogy starting in I think three years time. What there suppose to be individual films between each part of this new trilogy like they did with Rogue One and Solo? I wouldn't think they'd attempt to interweave the two upcoming trilogies. The audience was already confused, to make two part ones in a row, then part two follows up the film from two years ago, not the one that came out last year? Some people wouldn't get it (some had that going into Rogue One and were trying to figure out why Rey wasn't in this, and where was Luke?)
 
Crewman6 said:
There's no "evidence" beyond what people want to believe. Johnson said as recently as, what, a month or so ago that he's still working on it.

Yeah, even in this day and age, there's no way Disney would have friggin' release dates on that thing yet when it is that far off.

But, people will latch onto any "evidence", no matter how scant or nonexistent, to reinforce their worldview.
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Yeah, Disney doesn't put out release dates (even the projected year) unless the project is at least in pre-production. As we know RJ has been working on something else, that isn't the case with his trilogy and if the other trilogy is coming first, then his will be after that (and probably somewhat contingent on its success).
 
let's clear the air here.
In the video below the guy is talking about Disney's 50 anniversary and mainly the possibility that the castle will be modified. That's the video. Clearly, this guy is all pro-disney. Loves it.. loves it enough to keep updates on the anniversary.. he may or may not work for Disney, but it wouldn't surprise me that he blogs about the parks and the company. Clearly not a member of the fandom menace, as to him, Disney is all positive. Yet even he mentions, ina small sidenote, GE is underperforming and the numbers are down. And that leads me to believe that he might be softballing it
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Also rJ';s trilogy is dead. "Evidence" isn't always needed when deduction is rather simple to obtain.. this side of Arkham's Razor. I mean did Universal, who built a whole new office for the writers of the Dark Universe, and even announced like six films and got their cast together for a PR shot and all of that.. did UNIVERSAL need to announce formally that Dark Universe was dead? No, they didn't but.. we can all agree that it is.
 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
Also rJ';s trilogy is dead. "Evidence" isn't always needed when deduction is rather simple to obtain.. this side of Arkham's Razor. I mean did Universal, who built a whole new office for the writers of the Dark Universe, and even announced like six films and got their cast together for a PR shot and all of that..
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Deductions are based on facts and agreed upon premises. You are providing none. (Surprise, surprise.) Without facts, a deduction can't exist. You're just indulging in speculation based on, what, exactly? Nothing!

The only concrete facts we have are that Johnson was hired by SW to work on a new proposed trilogy. There has been no news, pro or con, on that front since then. Zero. Everything else is entirely conjecture.

It's "occam's razor" to assume that the movie is not happening because that's the simplest explanation??? It's in no way "simpler" or than if he WAS making a movie.

Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
did UNIVERSAL need to announce formally that Dark Universe was dead? No, they didn't but.. we can all agree that it is.
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Actually, Universal absolutely announced when they had changed strategies on their initial Dark Universe plans.

As for SW, Kathleen Kennedy admitted/announced when it was decided not to proceed with James Mangold's Boba Fett movie.
 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
let's clear the air here.
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Okay, I’m waiting...

Clearly not a member of the fandom menace,
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Got it.

<insert random YT video posting opinions not evidence>
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Not watching that.

Also rJ';s trilogy is dead. "Evidence" isn't always needed when deduction is rather simple to obtain.. this side of Arkham's Razor. I mean did Universal, who built a whole new office for the writers of the Dark Universe, and even announced like six films and got their cast together for a PR shot and all of that.. did UNIVERSAL need to announce formally that Dark Universe was dead? No, they didn't but.. we can all agree that it is.
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No, RJ’s trilogy is not dead. Yes, you need to provide real evidence. It is Occam’s Razor not Arkham. Unless this is some sort of a Batman thing that I don’t know about.

Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
i provided evidence
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Literally three posts above this you told us you didn’t need to provide evidence. So which is it?
 
So I clarified that the video is PRO DISNEY.. not a part of the so called fandom menace, that the video is mainly about Disney's 50 year celebration, and you just dismiss it out of hand because.. uh.. because...

I'll let you finish that sentence
 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
So I clarified that the video is PRO DISNEY.. not a part of the so called fandom menace, that the video is mainly about Disney's 50 year celebration, and you just dismiss it out of hand because.. uh.. because...

I'll let you finish that sentence
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I dismiss it out of hand because I’m sick and tired of people utilizing opinion YouTube videos as “evidence” in their arguments. Can’t you understand that? It’s lazy! Someone writes a nice long thesis and backs it up with actual supporting quotes and evidence from people in the know. People like YOU post a fucking YT video with someone that has no more knowledge or wisdom as you or I do and posits it as fact! It’s exhausting.
 
Guys..you are NEVER going to convince FSM of anything. He has his map of the world and nothing, you, I or Modman will say can change it.

Conversely, @Flying Spaghetti Monster you are not going to change THEIR minds. It hasn't happened yet, won't happen.

Can everyone (myself included) stop banging their heads on this particular rock? Please? It passed tedious like 20 pages ago.
 
Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
So I clarified that the video is PRO DISNEY.. not a part of the so called fandom menace, that the video is mainly about Disney's 50 year celebration, and you just dismiss it out of hand because.. uh.. because...

I'll let you finish that sentence
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Simple. It's not a primary source. The video maker does not work for Disney, does not have inside information nor can provide any insight other than their own opinion. That's not evidence-that's an opinion.

And, this question has still not been answered-why does GE's performance matter to you as a fan? Did Star Tours performance matter to you this much?

Right now, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
 
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