The Netherlands seems like such a random place to be giving a free trial of this service. That’s kinda weird.
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I've been reading that it has a much bigger MCU selection than we have been led to believe. Almost all of the movies and television shows (except the Netflix shows, of course), even Inhumans!
Are we going to assume that that's because they have the rights to more shows in the Netherlands than they do in the US or elsewhere?
Are we going to assume that for at least the first year or two, different countries will have different programs available, due to multiple rights issues and pre-existing deals?
Disney obviously isn't going to renew any of those deals, they'll bring everything under their own umbrella, eventually. It just may take a while.
Are we going to assume that for at least the first year or two, different countries will have different programs available, due to multiple rights issues and pre-existing deals?
Disney obviously isn't going to renew any of those deals, they'll bring everything under their own umbrella, eventually. It just may take a while.
I think I read somewhere that any of the stuff that's on Netflix when Disney+ starts, won't be on there until after it leaves Netflix.
EDIT: The Io9 article about the animated Marvel shows on the Dutch test run mentioned something that didn't even occur to me, the live action Japanese Spider-Man show. I'm not sure how the rites for that work exactly since it was made by Toei in Japan, but Marvel does have some kind access to it since they posted it on their official site a while back. I watched one or two episodes, and it was pretty fun. It had absolutely nothing to do with the comics beyond the Spider-Man name and costume, but it was still pretty fun to watch just because it was so crazy. I believe it was actually ended up being a big influence on Tokusastu shows in Japan, like Super Sentai (the show Power Rangers borrows footage from), and Kamen Rider.
EDIT: The Io9 article about the animated Marvel shows on the Dutch test run mentioned something that didn't even occur to me, the live action Japanese Spider-Man show. I'm not sure how the rites for that work exactly since it was made by Toei in Japan, but Marvel does have some kind access to it since they posted it on their official site a while back. I watched one or two episodes, and it was pretty fun. It had absolutely nothing to do with the comics beyond the Spider-Man name and costume, but it was still pretty fun to watch just because it was so crazy. I believe it was actually ended up being a big influence on Tokusastu shows in Japan, like Super Sentai (the show Power Rangers borrows footage from), and Kamen Rider.
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Netflix, I'm sure, has exclusive right to Disney content for a period of time, so Disney wouldn't legally be able to put it on their own streaming service until that period of time ends.
But, once it does... Netflix will lose it.
It's why Netflix paid hundreds of millions of dollars to extend their license of Friends, because it's a valuable property owned by someone else. And eventually, Warner Brothers will reclaim it--after the license is up--for HBOMax (still a dumb name.)
But, once it does... Netflix will lose it.
It's why Netflix paid hundreds of millions of dollars to extend their license of Friends, because it's a valuable property owned by someone else. And eventually, Warner Brothers will reclaim it--after the license is up--for HBOMax (still a dumb name.)
HBO Max makes no sense when they already have HBO Go. I get that they're trying to take advantage of the HBO brand but a lot of people still see HBO as something just for adults, when they're trying to also entice families to subscribe. They should have called it WB Max, or something like that.
The impression I'm under is that Netflix will be allowed to air their Marvel shows forever, but that once their exclusive rights run out in 4-5 years, Disney will be free to air them elsewhere too. However, that would presumably be Hulu instead of Disney+.
I could just be making that up though.
Not that weird actually. We're quite willing to try new things, are critical of them so offer feedback with constructive critisism. But our population isn't over hundreds of millions meaning there's suddenly an overwhelming amount of users, server-traffic and feedback.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. If they put in money for the production, then, yeah, it would make sense they would be able to have them forever. But, if they only paid a licensing fee to have the exclusive right to air a Marvel produced and financed show, then, it would disappear.
A part of me wonders why Disney would, in this day and age, sign a contract that gives away partial ownership over IP that's theirs. Yeah, it's only over these shows and not the characters forever... but, still. Selling a license would make more long term business sense to me.
I guess we'll find out in a few years...
Yeah, that really surprised me too.
It seems kind of weird to take the name from something that is really a minor part of the overall company.
It almost feels like Disney calling theirs Freeform+, but then still including all of the general Disney stuff rather than just Freeform shows.
I only realized they were connected when I bought the first season of Game of Thrones and saw it was released by Warner.
We have Disney+ and now AppleTV+, so they could have just followed the trend and called it Warner+ or if they like the Max thing, then Warner Max sounds good too.
We have Disney+ and now AppleTV+, so they could have just followed the trend and called it Warner+ or if they like the Max thing, then Warner Max sounds good too.
Netflix has no ownership of the Marvel characters, they only have exclusive internet streaming rights to the 5 shows they ordered from Marvel Television. They can't be revived on a competing pay tv service (cable or internet based), for however long the contract specifies (2 years from the date of each cancellation is what has repeatedly been said). An ad supported channel could (possibly) pick them-the reboot One Day At A Time has landed at CBS owned PopTV, for instance. None of the reporting done by the media has delved any deeper into the nuts and bolts of the situation.
According to IGN Gargoyles and Adventures of the Gummi Bears will also be on Disney+ along with the other Disney Afternoon shows we were already talking about.
I just remembered another one I used to love back in the day, that I would gladly watch on Disney+, Timon and Pumba. I remember that one being a lot o fun.
I just remembered another one I used to love back in the day, that I would gladly watch on Disney+, Timon and Pumba. I remember that one being a lot o fun.
Did you guys see that list of everything that's currently on Disney+? (In the Netherlands.)
https://www.slashfilm.com/disney-movies-and-tv-shows-list/
Some words of warning though: there's reason to believe that some of these movies will not be available when the US version launches in November (notably Marvel movies). So this may be part of why Disney choose the Netherlands to trial it in, because a much bigger library was immediately available to them there. (Among other reasons.)
Of course, any shows on that list that aren't available on the US version just yet would still presumably come available at some point in the future. And it's entirely possible that the US version will have films (maybe like Avatar?) and maybe even tv shows that aren't available in the Netherlands, but Disney can legally show elsewhere. And of course all of their new exclusive content will be added when they officially launch in November. So anything on that list that we don't get could easily be replaced by other stuff.
Now, having said that, holy shit that's an impressive list.
https://www.slashfilm.com/disney-movies-and-tv-shows-list/
Some words of warning though: there's reason to believe that some of these movies will not be available when the US version launches in November (notably Marvel movies). So this may be part of why Disney choose the Netherlands to trial it in, because a much bigger library was immediately available to them there. (Among other reasons.)
Of course, any shows on that list that aren't available on the US version just yet would still presumably come available at some point in the future. And it's entirely possible that the US version will have films (maybe like Avatar?) and maybe even tv shows that aren't available in the Netherlands, but Disney can legally show elsewhere. And of course all of their new exclusive content will be added when they officially launch in November. So anything on that list that we don't get could easily be replaced by other stuff.
Now, having said that, holy shit that's an impressive list.
Holy. Moley. They had me at The Black Hole. Even though I have it on DVD.
That is impressive. Some of the Disney stuff I hadn’t even considered, like Pete’s Dragon.
I feel very very good about this.
Wow that is a hell of a line up.
Is there a reason why first two Chronicles of Narnia are there, but not Voyage of the Dawn Treader? The first two were released by Disney, and Dawn Treader was released by Fox, so it is owned by Disney now too.
Anybody here remember the movie A Far of Place? I used to really like that movie as a kid, so I'm a bit disappointed it doesn't appear to be on there. It was made by Buena Vista Pictures, so I had assumed it would be on there.
Is there a reason why first two Chronicles of Narnia are there, but not Voyage of the Dawn Treader? The first two were released by Disney, and Dawn Treader was released by Fox, so it is owned by Disney now too.
Anybody here remember the movie A Far of Place? I used to really like that movie as a kid, so I'm a bit disappointed it doesn't appear to be on there. It was made by Buena Vista Pictures, so I had assumed it would be on there.
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