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Flat Earther to Launch Rocket Proving Earth is not Round

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https://www.livescience.com/61006-f...am-rocket-launch.html?utm_source=notification

"I don’t believe in science," Hughes said, according to the AP. "I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction."

There is a little problem with this launch given a little term known as 'trajectory' that creates an arc based on the velocity, thrust and weight of the rocket in Earth's gravity.

Oh God, I heard about this guy from a video on youtube. The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me. His plan seems like a perfect opportunity for him to remove himself from the gene pool, and perhaps win himself a Darwin Award for the effort. Someone has to have a particularly poor grasp of basic science to not understand why all planets, Earth included, must be approximately spherical in shape. Most primary school age kids can understand why planets are round.

It beggars belief that in an age where information is at your fingertips 24/7, someone can still believe such nonsense as the flat earth theory. I would love to know where these people were educated and if their physics teachers fell asleep on the job. I've been aware of the flat earth movement for some time now, can't help but gawp in amazement at how utterly thick these people must be to have fallen for such... [insert expletive here].

On the grand scheme of things, it may be a psy-op, get some stupid people to believe in a conspiracy about the shape of the Earth that is verifiably untrue, so that anyone who suggests any conspiracies at all (such as alien artefects on Mars, for instance, or the whole story about Roswell), is falsely conflated with Flat Earthers and therefore dismissed as insane or stupid. Goverments can and do lie to the people, but they would never be stupid enough to lie about something as easily tested as the shape of the world, to do so would completely undermine their percieved credibility.
 
These "Flat Earthers" are a subset of the more numerous Conspiracy Nutters strain of Humanity...

Basically, they think that the claim that the Earth is round is a big lie - how such a lie can be maintained for more than 2000 years is beyond me.

Part of their idiocy is that Columbus was wrong about the world being round - never minding the fact that that is NOT what Columbus was trying to prove. He believed the world was about 5000 miles smaller in circumference than it actually is and that you could just sail due west and reach the "Indies" (aka Japan, China, Indonesia etc...) is far less time than going around Africa and through the Indian Ocean.

That this idiot seems to think that HIS rocket can prove this stupid theory - when several hundred rockets have already been launched (never mind unmanned missiles and the like) and proved that the Greeks were right all along - is what really beggars belief to me...
 
These "Flat Earthers" are a subset of the more numerous Conspiracy Nutters strain of Humanity...

Basically, they think that the claim that the Earth is round is a big lie - how such a lie can be maintained for more than 2000 years is beyond me.

Part of their idiocy is that Columbus was wrong about the world being round - never minding the fact that that is NOT what Columbus was trying to prove. He believed the world was about 5000 miles smaller in circumference than it actually is and that you could just sail due west and reach the "Indies" (aka Japan, China, Indonesia etc...) is far less time than going around Africa and through the Indian Ocean.

That this idiot seems to think that HIS rocket can prove this stupid theory - when several hundred rockets have already been launched (never mind unmanned missiles and the like) and proved that the Greeks were right all along - is what really beggars belief to me...

You're right about Columbus, he did think he was going to end up in India (or at least within that general area), and underestimated the size of Earth by quite a large margin.

I've seen some seriously batshit assertions made by flat earthers, they include:

They think the sun is a giant spotlight 3000-5000 miles away, and that it travels in a roughly circular path around the north pole (the center according to them). Their model does not even have a working system of day and night, never mind the seasons, and they think that throwing around the word 'perspective' will solve all their problems.

They think that Gravity does not exist, and that it's invented by NASA. They say that it's down to 'density' (confusing a property of an object with a physical force of nature). They use objects like tennis balls, wet them, and then ask us to explain why the water does not stick to the ball. This ridiculous experiment was meant to disprove the existence of gravity.

They believe that there is a massive fleet of ships patrolling the water surrounding the antactic rim, just to stop people from discovering 'da truth' by visiting antarctica... and yet they seem to not realize that there are not enough boats in the worlds navies combined to patrol that amount of ocean. I got called a brainwashed idiot by one of them once for posting links to travel websites selling trips to antarctica (which included flights from australia and south africa), instantly disproving the nonsense they were spouting.

They also think that stars are lights placed in the firmament by God, and are about the same distance away as the sun.

I could go on and on, but suffice to say, none of these beliefs are remotely reasonable, especially when there is ample evidence to disprove them in a heartbeat.
 
You're right about Columbus, he did think he was going to end up in India (or at least within that general area), and underestimated the size of Earth by quite a large margin.

I've seen some seriously batshit assertions made by flat earthers, they include:

They think the sun is a giant spotlight 3000-5000 miles away, and that it travels in a roughly circular path around the north pole (the center according to them). Their model does not even have a working system of day and night, never mind the seasons, and they think that throwing around the word 'perspective' will solve all their problems.

They think that Gravity does not exist, and that it's invented by NASA. They say that it's down to 'density' (confusing a property of an object with a physical force of nature). They use objects like tennis balls, wet them, and then ask us to explain why the water does not stick to the ball. This ridiculous experiment was meant to disprove the existence of gravity.

They believe that there is a massive fleet of ships patrolling the water surrounding the antactic rim, just to stop people from discovering 'da truth' by visiting antarctica... and yet they seem to not realize that there are not enough boats in the worlds navies combined to patrol that amount of ocean. I got called a brainwashed idiot by one of them once for posting links to travel websites selling trips to antarctica (which included flights from australia and south africa), instantly disproving the nonsense they were spouting.

They also think that stars are lights placed in the firmament by God, and are about the same distance away as the sun.

I could go on and on, but suffice to say, none of these beliefs are remotely reasonable, especially when there is ample evidence to disprove them in a heartbeat.


So not only are they gullible rubes but religious too. What a combination?
 
Never mind that the Bible doesn't really go into any detail about the creation or its nature other than it was created in "Six Days" (and even that's a probably false translation/transliteration of the actual wording).

They basically want to believe this just to be contrary or they actually think that this idiocy would prove God's existence...

Your basic, garden variety of idiots... Blazing Saddles seems apropos right about now:

"You've got to remember is that these are simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know...morons." Waco Kid
 
Never mind that the Bible doesn't really go into any detail about the creation or its nature other than it was created in "Six Days" (and even that's a probably false translation/transliteration of the actual wording).

They basically want to believe this just to be contrary or they actually think that this idiocy would prove God's existence...

Your basic, garden variety of idiots... Blazing Saddles seems apropos right about now:

"You've got to remember is that these are simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new west. You know...morons." Waco Kid

Thing about the Bible is this, much of what it says is meant to be taken metaphorically, not literally. Flat Earthers (at least the religious ones) seem to think that when the Bible refers to the 'circle of the Earth' it means a flat circular disc. For all we know, circle and sphere could have been the same word in some ancient languages and so it is impossible to know what the ancient people thought or meant. Most churches (here in England anyway) do not run against known and proven science, any that do would quite quickly lose their already scarce congregations. Some ancient people were already well aware of the spherical globe, pythagoras worked it out thousands of years before the airplane or modern science was discovered. Ancient people were technologically challenged, but they were far from stupid. Some communities obviously believed in a flat earth, because they knew no better (hence the blunder in the Koran or Hadith which says that the sun sets in a pond of murky water... given the mirage effect it may have looked that way to ancient arabians who simply didn't know any different) and probably did not travel far, those that did would have questioned things and worked it out. We can excuse these misunderstandings of ancient people who were simply trying to explain what they couldn't understand, there are likely things we think or believe that people in the distant future will know to be incorrect in light of the advanced knowledge they will have. What I don't get understand people rejecting knowledge that has been known and verifiably proven for several centuries. Part of me hopes that they're trolling or crying for attention, but another part of me thinks that they're really either incredibly stupid, or brainwashed, or have zero critical thinking skills.

As to whether God exists, I believe this entity does... but not in the way religious believers do. I believe in the consciousness necessary for quantum physics to work, the consciousness of the universe (research the double slit experiment). I see the universe itself as the body of God, and all laws of science as being Gods law. The law was written at the Big Bang, and as God is energy in my belief, it always existed, just not in the form it does now. God also has no gender and no culture. We were created as per evolution, and the laws of physics and chemistry, and it is down to us how we use (or abuse) the knowledge we gain. People do not go to heaven or hell, God does not give reward or punish us, only allows us to have the natural consequences of our actions and inactions, both individually and as a species as a whole. I believe in life after death, in that our consciousness (spirit if you prefer that word) abandons out bodies when we die, and then we can choose to be reborn, or to hang around in the other dimension for a while, or whatever to progress our journey. I do not believe God wants to be worshipped by us any more than we want the subatomic particles in cells in our bodies to worship us. The whole concept is ridiculous. The meaning of life: to seek the truth and to be a good person, that's about it really. Just cuts to the core without the posturing or the tedium of religon, which divides people and separates them from God far more than non-belief. I am also willing to change my beliefs according to scientific evidence, religions find it hard to keep pace with science. So while I am a theist (by belief, not absolute proof), I take a dim view on the mind-prison we call organized religion.
 
Basically - a bit of a Deist - like me!

Yes - the Bible is mostly allegory and metaphor and should be taken that way. The "Fundamentalists" of the 19th century have a lot to answer for (as do some of the clergy from earlier times).
 
Basically - a bit of a Deist - like me!

Yes - the Bible is mostly allegory and metaphor and should be taken that way. The "Fundamentalists" of the 19th century have a lot to answer for (as do some of the clergy from earlier times).

I agree, a lot of horrors around the world have been (and still are) committed in the name of God. Glad to say hi to someome with similar beliefs :)
 
As to whether God exists, I believe this entity does... but not in the way religious believers do. I believe in the consciousness necessary for quantum physics to work, the consciousness of the universe (research the double slit experiment). I see the universe itself as the body of God, and all laws of science as being Gods law. The law was written at the Big Bang, and as God is energy in my belief, it always existed, just not in the form it does now.



I like the way you think...... I like this kind of thought a lot and it's often something I think when I try to rationalize "The God," the creator of everything, everywhere..

When we die we dissipate and become part of the background radiation and energy of the universe. At least I think so, though I like the idea of reincarnation but which can happen in non linear ways.
 
I like the way you think...... I like this kind of thought a lot and it's often something I think when I try to rationalize "The God," the creator of everything, everywhere..

When we die we dissipate and become part of the background radiation and energy of the universe. At least I think so, though I like the idea of reincarnation but which can happen in non linear ways.

I'm almost certain I've been here before. Like, once I went to a different town I'd never been to before, and yet I knew my way around, even the look of the buildings and the trees looked familiar. I got to a shop to buy a drink and had a strong feeling it was once a bakery. It was a bit eeree to be honest. I knew that I knew that place, but not in this life. I can't prove it and I know it's not rational, but how else could I know my way around a town I had never visited? As a person who is hopeless with directions unless I have a map, it was an odd experience to say the least.

I don't think it's a case of rationalizing God, to me it is going with current evidence. Physics tells us energy cannot be created or destroyed, therefore energy is eternal, the universe is made of energy in various forms... The laws of physics and chemistry are properties of energy, and exist in such a way as to make life possible. For me, it would take more blind faith to believe that God doesn't exist than to believe that it does. I believe that all that exists is a part of God, including planets, stars, life forms both here and out there in the depths of space. We have access to only a tiny fraction, but we will understand more as we progress as a species and make it beyond our home solar system. We may only be a couple of centuries away.
 
I'm almost certain I've been here before. Like, once I went to a different town I'd never been to before, and yet I knew my way around, even the look of the buildings and the trees looked familiar. I got to a shop to buy a drink and had a strong feeling it was once a bakery. It was a bit eeree to be honest. I knew that I knew that place, but not in this life. I can't prove it and I know it's not rational, but how else could I know my way around a town I had never visited? As a person who is hopeless with directions unless I have a map, it was an odd experience to say the least.

I don't think it's a case of rationalizing God, to me it is going with current evidence. Physics tells us energy cannot be created or destroyed, therefore energy is eternal, the universe is made of energy in various forms... The laws of physics and chemistry are properties of energy, and exist in such a way as to make life possible. For me, it would take more blind faith to believe that God doesn't exist than to believe that it does. I believe that all that exists is a part of God, including planets, stars, life forms both here and out there in the depths of space. We have access to only a tiny fraction, but we will understand more as we progress as a species and make it beyond our home solar system. We may only be a couple of centuries away.



OK here's an odd one. I had this vivid dream a few years back where I swear I had spent a few months with this redhead woman and we had spent time with her driving around and me with her going to galleries and events, and talking, and dancing and all that kind of stuff. I've seen the same woman in several dreams prior to that and even after. Anyway I swear that this felt like some real time had passed and when I woke up the next day I felt sad, disoriented, and a bit lost as if I was somewhere else. I kind of like the idea that in our dreams we visit other versions of ourselves in other universes and trade places for awhile but this felt so real.. I always wanted to go back there and make it a permanent stay.

I've seen her a few times in my dreams recently but she's a little older but we still seem to know each other if that makes sense.

Anyway I had this idea for s short story and I did write it a long while back but never did anything with it, see if you can understand this concept.

A writer died but then five years later this woman is looking into his life and wanting to find out more information about him. She visits his old hometown and house and the same family is still living there but when she walks into his room where he does his writing she feels a connection. Later it's revealed she's actually him reincarnated but she was born only a few years after he was born so see what I mean about things being non linear? I proposed that maybe reincarnation could happen at any point in time not just after a death but during a life.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind

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OK here's an odd one. I had this vivid dream a few years back where I swear I had spent a few months with this redhead woman and we had spent time with her driving around and me with her going to galleries and events, and talking, and dancing and all that kind of stuff. I've seen the same woman in several dreams prior to that and even after. Anyway I swear that this felt like some real time had passed and when I woke up the next day I felt sad, disoriented, and a bit lost as if I was somewhere else. I kind of like the idea that in our dreams we visit other versions of ourselves in other universes and trade places for awhile but this felt so real.. I always wanted to go back there and make it a permanent stay.

I've seen her a few times in my dreams recently but she's a little older but we still seem to know each other if that makes sense.

Anyway I had this idea for s short story and I did write it a long while back but never did anything with it, see if you can understand this concept.

A writer died but then five years later this woman is looking into his life and wanting to find out more information about him. She visits his old hometown and house and the same family is still living there but when she walks into his room where he does his writing she feels a connection. Later it's revealed she's actually him reincarnated but she was born only a few years after he was born so see what I mean about things being non linear? I proposed that maybe reincarnation could happen at any point in time not just after a death but during a life.

That's fascinating. Maybe your 'dreams' of this woman could actually be memories of a previous life resurfacing while you are asleep? Most dreams are just dreams, our brains sorting things out, but I think some dreams are more than that, and the ones you describe certainly fall into that category. But yes, I see what you mean about it could be connected to non-linear time. I don't think that time is the constant we perceive it as, it only seems that way from our vantage point. It is conceivable that some beings can travel through time as easily as we can walk across the room. I think a lot of odd or paranormal experiences people have are just natural things that science does not yet have an understanding of. Things our ancestors would have simply attributed to spirits or to God, we now say 'we don't know'... but one day we will know. Now is the time for forming theories and trying to make sense of the unexplained around and within us.
 
That's fascinating. Maybe your 'dreams' of this woman could actually be memories of a previous life resurfacing while you are asleep? Most dreams are just dreams, our brains sorting things out, but I think some dreams are more than that, and the ones you describe certainly fall into that category. But yes, I see what you mean about it could be connected to non-linear time. I don't think that time is the constant we perceive it as, it only seems that way from our vantage point. It is conceivable that some beings can travel through time as easily as we can walk across the room. I think a lot of odd or paranormal experiences people have are just natural things that science does not yet have an understanding of. Things our ancestors would have simply attributed to spirits or to God, we now say 'we don't know'... but one day we will know. Now is the time for forming theories and trying to make sense of the unexplained around and within us.


I think ghosts are a kind of temporal anomaly. Thank you for replying I honestly didn't think you would. Yeah the redhead woman is one I won't forget I know the lines of her face and her look.
 
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