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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

For those of you old enough to remember when the stars came out on Labor Day for a good cause, this is for you:
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If you weren’t there, I’m sorry for you. It was an indescribable mix of heart and schmaltz. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
 
He's been on the trail of that rabid dog for months!
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"Newsview magazine is offering a $10,000 reward for any information leading to the capture of this mutt."

I was going to say, is he old enough to have an eight-year-old kid, but holy cow, he's a lot older than I thought.
How much it comes out seems to vary in an image search, but as I recall, he had some temple-graying going on as Tigh.

I am unfamiliar with this test.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Thunder
Any time Golden Age Johnny uttered the syllables that matched his magic word, "Cei-U"--which sounded like "say you"...it summoned his eager-to-please genie-like Thunderbolt, who proceeded to cause magical mischief at Johnny's every stray suggestion. Context or inflection didn't matter, just that he strung together those syllables...which of course happened a lot. So while I type it as "Oh, Donald," an "Oh! Donald..." would work just as well going by those rules.

Better, but not great. There was recently a guest editorial in Analog by the woman who does the recruiting at NASA about the difficulties of getting women to sign up for the Space Program.
But at least we've put women in space...whether we'll ever go back to the Moon at all is questionable, and the only people who've been there so far were all men.

Well, not random for them, I guess....
I probably picked this up from something that I read, but for the purpose of doing covers, Larry Williams seems to have been John's Little Richard, since Paul had a lock on the Little Richard material in the band.

He's gonna be a good boy and go to Heaven!
Longing for the day that he can join his departed love I'd describe as morbid at best.

That's exactly what I was thinking of. When I think of Squadron Supreme, I think of the Serpent Crown Saga-- Englehart was one of my writing gods back in the 70s.
That Squadron Supreme storyline was really slow to get going thanks to the intervening combination of a parallel Kang storyline going on with another group of Avengers and a couple of fill-in issues that, IIRC, contained what was meant to be the next issue of Giant-Size Avengers before that line was discontinued...but the DC spoofery in 147-148 was pure gold. The only blemish was that both the cover blurbs were still getting them mixed up with the Squadron Sinister, and the writing inside compounded the problem, with Iron Man making references to previous encounters with the other version of Doctor Spectrum as if they were the same character.

How do you feel about lime?
I'd considered spoofing on that!

Hee haw! Er... I mean, this is so freakin' good I could cry.
This was definitely too odd and quirky a song to make it as a single. The Jim parts sound good and prominently reference the passing of Otis Redding, but the countryish Robby vocals always sounded to me like he was spoofing on Dylan, and I have no idea what the connection would be between those two elements.

This is a nice one.
It's got a good enough sign-o-the-times vibe that I got it despite it being sub-Top 30 on this side of the pond.

It's always darkest before the Dawn.
Here I thought I'd have to tell everybody that the singer was Tony Orlando...and now I have, for those who weren't in the know! Fun fact, this wasn't his first hit...he'd scored a solo-billed Top 20 single earlier in the decade:
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(Charted Aug. 14, 1961; #15 US; #5 UK)

Should have carried this back for a refund. :rommie:
This one is the last we should be hearing from The Rascals as 50th anniversary business, as it proved to be their final Top 40 single.

Surprisingly good.
It really is, and that's from somebody whose primary exposure to the song was this version:
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For those of you old enough to remember when the stars came out on Labor Day for a good cause, this is for you:
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If you weren’t there, I’m sorry for you. It was an indescribable mix of heart and schmaltz. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Yeah, the telethon was an institution for as long as I can remember...these days it feels like the holiday has lost what I always considered to be its main thing.
 
Surprisingly good.
"Baby It's You," Smith
I had meant to comment on this one and forgot. Yeah, Smith's version of the song is pretty great. I didn't remember it until I clicked on the vid. The arrangement works and the lead vocalist can REALLY sing. The song loses none of it's passion.
It really is, and that's from somebody whose primary exposure to the song was this version:
When it came to soulful crooning, John Lennon left nothing on the table.

I googled this song just to confirm that it was a Goffin/King composition. To my shock, per Wiki, it's a Burt Bacharach song (with multiple lyricists). This does NOT sound like a Bacharach song to me. It seems like the perfect Goffin/King song. Weird, but certainly in line with the phenomenally talented Burt Bacharach.

Might as well do the trifecta and post the Shirelles' original:
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For those of you old enough to remember when the stars came out on Labor Day for a good cause, this is for you:
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If you weren’t there, I’m sorry for you. It was an indescribable mix of heart and schmaltz. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
I never missed it. Labor Day was always about the Jerry Lewis Telethon, the new TV schedule, and back to school. :rommie:

How much it comes out seems to vary in an image search, but as I recall, he had some temple-graying going on as Tigh.
I guess so, but I never would have guessed that he was 50.

Any time Golden Age Johnny uttered the syllables that matched his magic word, "Cei-U"--which sounded like "say you"...it summoned his eager-to-please genie-like Thunderbolt, who proceeded to cause magical mischief at Johnny's every stray suggestion. Context or inflection didn't matter, just that he strung together those syllables...which of course happened a lot. So while I type it as "Oh, Donald," an "Oh! Donald..." would work just as well going by those rules.
Ah, I see. I am apparently totally unfamiliar with this character.

But at least we've put women in space...whether we'll ever go back to the Moon at all is questionable, and the only people who've been there so far were all men.
We shall return!

Longing for the day that he can join his departed love I'd describe as morbid at best.
Well, that too. Cheerfully morbid. Or morbidly inspirational. Or something.

and the writing inside compounded the problem, with Iron Man making references to previous encounters with the other version of Doctor Spectrum as if they were the same character.
I never would have caught that.

I'd considered spoofing on that!
:rommie:

It's got a good enough sign-o-the-times vibe that I got it despite it being sub-Top 30 on this side of the pond.
I think I will get it myself. I like it.

Here I thought I'd have to tell everybody that the singer was Tony Orlando...
It said so on the video, so I'm not sure if I would have recognized his voice on my own. The song itself sounds kind of Four Seasons-ish.
 
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"Newsview magazine is offering a $10,000 reward for any information leading to the capture of this mutt."

Hey--its Jack Colvin...years before he starred as a total bloodsucker! :D
 
50th Anniversary Album Spotlight

Crosby, Stills & Nash
Crosby, Stills & Nash
Released May 29, 1969
Chart debut: June 28, 1969
Chart peak: #6, November 15, 1969
#259 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time
Wiki said:
Crosby, Stills & Nash is the first album by Crosby, Stills & Nash, released in 1969 on the Atlantic Records label. It spawned two Top 40 hit singles, "Marrakesh Express" and "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," which peaked respectively at #28 the week of August 23, 1969, and at #21 the week of December 6, 1969, on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart. The album itself peaked at #6 on the Billboard Top Pop Albums chart. It was certified four times platinum by the RIAA for sales of over 4,200,000.


CSN are often referred to as an early example of a supergroup, its members having all come from already-established hitmaking bands--The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield, and The Hollies, respectively. Their debut album starts powerfully with the masterful "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," which would have made a far stronger lead single than the one that they chose.
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(Charts Oct. 4, 1969; #21 US; #418 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)
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The title "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" (a play on words for "Sweet Judy Blue Eyes") refers to Stephen Stills' former girlfriend, singer/songwriter Judy Collins, and the lyrics to most of the suite's sections consist of his thoughts about her and their imminent breakup.
I did not know that!

I've always been underwhelmed by the actual lead single, "Marrakesh Express," a goofy little ditty which Graham Nash brought with him from The Hollies...but it proved to be quite popular in these parts, so what do Iggy and I know?
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(Charted July 19, 1969; #28 US; #17 UK)

More impressive to me is David Crosby's striking, ethereal "Guinnevere":
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Crosby said that it was about three women that he loved, one of whom was Joni Mitchell.

Stephen Stills's "You Don't Have to Cry" has that distinctive CSN vocal/acoustic sound, and resembles parts of "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," which definitely gives it a strong advantage over "Marrakesh Express".

The first side closes with Nash's "Pre-Road Downs," which is the album's first rocker. As such the vocals aren't as appealing, but its chunky bass and guitar licks that are either backwards or processed to sound like they're backwards compensate handily, making it more than a match for poor "Marrakesh Express".

Side two opens with "Wooden Ships," a song written by Crosby, Stills, and Paul Kantner from Jefferson Airplane. Recorded by both CSN and the Airplane, this groovy rocker portrays survivors in a hippie-flavored post-apocalyptic scenario. I'd been vaguely familiar with this song prior to getting the album, and it caught on with me more when I found that it was one of three CSN(Y) studio songs used in the Woodstock film.
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You know what CSN song they didn't use in the Woodstock film? Yeah, I don't have to say it, do I?

If "Marrakesh Express" has one up on any other song from this album, it would be Nash's "Lady of the Island," which is a bit of a snoozer for me. At least "Marrakesh" is mildly entertaining in its half-assed manner. "Lady" goes for a soft, gentle vibe in a cloying sort of way, with none of the atmosphere of a "Guinnevere". Reportedly this is another song that was written with Joni Mitchell in mind...she was pretty popular in the group.

Stills's alliteravely lyriced "Helplessly Hoping," in contrast, has that CSN three-part harmony sound going for it...so we're back to being better than "Marrakesh Express," at least.

The other song from this album used in the Woodstock film is Crosby's "Long Time Gone," a pretty strong rocker with distinctive two-part harmonies in the chorus. This one might have done well as a single...it's certainly better than one single from the album that I could name.
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The Stills-written "49 Bye-Byes" is a good song in its own right, but not one of the stronger ones on the album to my ear. "Marrakesh Express" isn't necessarily better, but it might have made for a more distinct closer.

So the common denominator in the songs that I liked least is...Graham Nash. Which is surprising, as I generally enjoyed The Hollies' major singles.

Wiki said:
Along with the Byrds' Sweetheart of the Rodeo and The Band's Music from Big Pink of the previous year, [Crosby, Stills & Nash] helped initiate a sea change in popular music away from the ruling late-1960s aesthetic of bands playing blues-based rock music on loud guitars.
Strong sales, combined with the group's emphasis on personal confession in its writing, paved the way for the success of the singer-songwriter movement of the early 1970s. Their utilization of personal events in their material without resorting to subterfuge, their talents in vocal harmony, their cultivation of painstaking studio craft, as well as the Laurel Canyon ethos that surrounded the group and their associates, established an aesthetic for a number of acts that came to define the "California sound" of the ensuing decade, including the Eagles, Jackson Browne, post-1974 Fleetwood Mac, and others.

The group also won the 1970 Grammy Award for Best New Artist.


Next up: 55th Anniversary Album Spotlight--Getz/Gilberto, Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto, feat. Antonio Carlos Jobin

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The arrangement works and the lead vocalist can REALLY sing.
Yeah, her vocal style reminds me of Dusty.

It said so on the video
I believe that the expression for this sort of occasion is..."D'oh!"
 
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Their debut album starts powerfully with the masterful "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," which would have made a far stronger lead single than the one that they chose.
An epic, unique classic.

I did not know that!
And it's actually something I did know. :rommie:

I've always been underwhelmed by the actual lead single, "Marrakesh Express," a goofy little ditty which Graham Nash brought with him from The Hollies...but it proved to be quite popular in these parts, so what do Iggy and I know?
But it's so purely CSN. :rommie: Kind of ironic, I guess, since it was written for the Hollies-- something I did not know.

Side two opens with "Wooden Ships," a song written by Crosby, Stills, and Paul Kantner from Jefferson Airplane.
Such a weird, sad song.

Reportedly this is another song that was written with Joni Mitchell in mind...she was pretty popular in the group.
Both a sage and a muse.

I believe that the expression for this sort of occasion is..."D'oh!"
:rommie:
 
When retro-worlds collide...on Labor Day:
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WARNING: Okoyay ingsay. (But stick around for the end anyway.)

But it's so purely CSN. :rommie:
Part of my problem with it is that it doesn't sound like CSN to me, from the other songs that I know by them.
 
When retro-worlds collide...on Labor Day:
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WARNING: Okoyay ingsay. (But stick around for the end anyway.)
That’s what I’m talking about! Hi yo!

Jerry … man, was that the most uptight intro ever? I thought he was gonna tell Lennon he had chunks of pinkos like him in his stools. Later, though, Jerry joined the fun and gave peace a chance. Send money!
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Along with the Byrds' Sweetheart of the Rodeo and The Band's Music from Big Pink of the previous year, [Crosby, Stills & Nash] helped initiate a sea change in popular music away from the ruling late-1960s aesthetic of bands playing blues-based rock music on loud guitars.
Strong sales, combined with the group's emphasis on personal confession in its writing, paved the way for the success of the singer-songwriter movement of the early 1970s.
I'm going to somewhat disagree with this. First, I'd add Dylan, Donovan, and Simon and Garfield as artists who were also just as important as CSN and The Band, (more important in the case of Dylan). in the early development of the singer/songwriter genre.

And also, I disagree with the "sea change" comment. Blues based rock was going strong in the late 60's to early 70's with Mick and the Stones, Led Zep, and many others. Blues based rock was what the hair bands of the 70's played and they didn't peak until the mid 70's or so.

The way I remember it, the singer/songwriter genre created an alternative to blues based rock rather creating a "sea change" in popular music with both running along parallel lines.
Their debut album starts powerfully with the masterful "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes,"
I've always thought that the word "suite" was a reference to this song sounding like it is 3 different songs slapped together. Of course I could be wrong, but to me it sounds like song 1 ends at about 5:00, song 2 starts about 5:09, and song 3 starts at about 6:33.

I like "Judy", but I've always had a little less respect for songs that are created from "spare parts" (or at least, when it sounds like it). It's the main reason I have never thought of "A Day In the Life" as the Beatles' greatest song.
 
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"It's So Nice to Have a Mouse Around the House"
Originally aired March 13, 1969
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A lonely night at Ann's apartment is interrupted by a mouse, which somehow makes her father think she and Donald are fooling around.

The visitation happens after Donald has to cancel plans for the two of them to spend the night visiting Ann's parent's in Brewster because of an assignment. Ann actually doesn't recognize her visitor as a mouse...she exaggerates its size and appearance to Donald on the phone. But once Donald comes over, she doesn't want to kill it. So they switch apartments for the night, and Mr. Marie comes by the next morning to find Donald answering the door in his underwear. Of course, nobody gets around to explaining the situation before he starts going on about the need for a shotgun wedding in Baltimore.

Feeling the need to prove the existence of the mouse to her father, Ann calls an exterminator (Bill Bramley), but he leaves when she explains that she just wants him to expose it and "shoo it away" without harming it. Finally, when Ann's convinced that her father believes her and Donald, Donald comes out of the kitchen with the mouse dangling in his hand, frightening both of the Maries.

In the coda, Ann goes into a panic again when she sees the mouse being kept in a cage in Donald's apartment.

Definitely kinda meh generic sitcom stuff here.

"Oh, Donald" count: 7
"Oh, Daddy" count: 2

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"Bad Day at Marvin Gardens"
Originally aired March 20, 1969
Wiki said:
After inviting her parents over to a baseball game that gets rained out, Ann decides to let them and Donald stay at her place for a game of Monopoly, for which Lou gets much too competitive in.
That's Ann collecting rain water in a pot for washing her hair.

We get a good look at Ann's hall closet shelf, which is where she keeps her games for the purpose of this episode, but her can of flour and her records are nowhere to be seen.

The haggling over familiar Monopoly properties is kind of amusing. I have to wonder if this was deliberate product placement. Later at a Broadway show, Lew's still trying to persuade Donald to sell him Marvin Gardens. Ultimately the situation causes Lew to get into a fight with Helen, causing him to get his own hotel room. When Ann wants to call her father to tell him how silly he's being, Donald stops her, expressing his understanding of Mr. Marie's pride and principles.

By the end, we find Lew and Donald bonding over their mutual competition in the game.

"Oh, Donald" count: 0
"Oh, Daddy" count: 2 (One sounded more like an "aw," but the closed captioning said "oh".)

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"Sue Me, Sue Me, What Can You Do Me?"
Originally aired March 27, 1969 (Season 3 finale)
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Ann's father slips at Donald's magazine and hurts himself. Donald has to get him to sign an insurance waiver.

Lew slips in the hall because of a puddle left by a leaky water cooler. While he goes uncredited, the janitor at Newsview is Len Lesser, Jerry Seinfeld's Uncle Leo. Lew's perfectly willing to sign the waiver when Jerry Bauman stirs him up on the issue of potential future complications.

Newsview puts pressure on Donald, suspecting that he's involved in collusion. The publisher gives Donald a speech about how the company is like a family, but doesn't know his name, and Donald quits. Mr. Marie tries to get him his job back but it doesn't help. But Donald's editor, who insists that he really runs the magazine, feels differently about the situation and convinces Donald to stay.

In the end, Jerry slips and falls in the same spot.

Hall closet shelf continuity: The games are still there.

"Oh, Donald" count: 2
"Oh, Daddy" count: 1
"Oh, Dr. Heindorf" count: 1

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I'm going to somewhat disagree with this. First, I'd add Dylan, Donovan, and Simon and Garfield as artists who were also just as important as CSN and The Band, (more important in the case of Dylan). in the early development of the singer/songwriter genre.
The even earlier development, perhaps. One can always go back a little further, but CSN and The Band would be more immediate influences on early '70s music.

The way I remember it, the singer/songwriter genre created an alternative to blues based rock rather creating a "sea change" in popular music with both running along parallel lines.
I'll agree with that. The singer/songwriter thing was very prevalent in the early '70s, but it wasn't the only game in town.

I've always thought that the word "suite" was a reference to this song sounding like it is 3 different songs slapped together. Of course I could be wrong, but to me it sounds like song 1 ends at about 5:00, song 2 starts about 5:09, and song 3 starts at about 6:33.
Four segments, actually.
Wiki said:
"Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" has four distinct sections. The timings below are for the full album version. The shortened version released as a single cut the second and fourth verses from the first section, the third and fourth verses from the second section, and the final verse and preceding break from the third section, and shortened the guitar break between the second and the third sections. The final section is the only part that stayed fully intact on the single.

The first section is a traditional pop song with four verses, featuring a chorus of "I am yours, you are mine, you are what you are." Running at approximately 2:56, the lead vocal is performed by Stills, with Crosby and Nash providing harmonies.

The second section is performed in half time relative to the first section, and features four verses of three-part harmony from the band, with Stills performing a brief vocal solo between the second and third. This section runs from 2:56 to 4:43.

The third section is more upbeat and features poetic lyrics ("chestnut brown canary, ruby-throated sparrow"), lasting from 4:43 to 6:25. Each of the three phrases is initially sung by Stills, with Nash then joining, and finally Crosby rounding out the harmonies. Connecting the phrases are instrumental breaks performed by Stills on acoustic guitar.

The final section (the coda) is sung in Spanish, with "doo-doo-doo-da-doo" backing vocals, starting at 6:34 until the song concludes. Stills has said that he intentionally made the final stanzas unexpected and difficult, even using a foreign language for the lyrics, "just to make sure nobody would understand it" (not even Spanish speaking people).


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I like "Judy", but I've always had a little less respect for songs that are created from "spare parts" (or at least, when it sounds like it). It's the main reason I have never thought of "A Day In the Life" as the Beatles' greatest song.
My mileage varies...something like "Suite" has more of a classical vibe.

Wow, Jerry Lewis is like... the 5th Beatle or something. :rommie:
1972's a bit late for that...he'll have to settle for being the Second Yoko.
 
Ann actually doesn't recognize her visitor as a mouse...she exaggerates its size and appearance to Donald on the phone.
Another opportunity for a genre version of That Girl. It would certainly be a lot better than everybody indulging Mr. Marie's painfully Victorian sexual mores.

Of course, nobody gets around to explaining the situation before he starts going on about the need for a shotgun wedding in Baltimore.
Or maybe they're just messing with him to see if he'll die of a heart attack or something.

Feeling the need to prove the existence of the mouse to her father, Ann calls an exterminator (Bill Bramley), but he leaves when she explains that she just wants him to expose it and "shoo it away" without harming it.
"Exterminator" was a bad choice then . "Mouse Whisperer" would have been better.

"Oh, Donald" count: 7
"Oh, Daddy" count: 2
No, "Oh, a mouse?" :rommie:

We get a good look at Ann's hall closet shelf, which is where she keeps her games for the purpose of this episode
Does she have Mouse Trap? :D

...Donald stops her, expressing his understanding of Mr. Marie's pride and principles.

By the end, we find Lew and Donald bonding over their mutual competition in the game.
Apparently, Ann wants a guy just like the guy that married dear old Mom.

Lew slips in the hall because of a puddle left by a leaky water cooler.
Pay up, Newsview. :rommie:

1972's a bit late for that...he'll have to settle for being the Second Yoko.
Still kind of a step up.
 
50th Anniversary Cinematic Special

Alice's Restaurant
Directed by Arthur Penn
Starring Arlo Guthrie, Pat Quinn, James Broderick, Pete Seeger, Lee Hays, and William Obanhein
Released August 19, 1969
1970 Academy Award Nominee for Best Director
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Alice's Restaurant is a 1969 American comedy film directed by Arthur Penn. It is an adaptation of the 1967 folk song "Alice's Restaurant Massacree", originally written and sung by Arlo Guthrie. The film stars Guthrie as himself, with Pat Quinn as Alice Brock and James Broderick as Ray Brock. Penn, who resided in the story's setting of Stockbridge, Massachusetts, co-wrote the story with Venable Herndon in 1967 after hearing the song, shortly after directing Bonnie & Clyde.
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I was not overly familiar with the 18-1/2-minute song upon which the film is based, though I was generally aware of its status as a Thanksgiving tradition for some, and familiarized myself with it via YouTube prior to watching the film (the song being of such length that iTunes doesn't allow it to be purchased as an individual track). The song was a humorous account of actual events in Guthrie's life, and the film in turn was more loosely based on Guthrie's life via its adaptation of the song. Most of the dramatic storylines involving Alice (Pat Quinn), Ray (James Broderick), and Ray's addict friend Shelly (Michael McClanathan) was strictly scripted for the film.

Note that I'd be inclined to post the song here for reference, but it includes an account of somebody using the f****t slur, which is against board policy.

The film starts with Arlo trying to evade the draft by enrolling in a Montana college, but that doesn't work out when he faces a rough time from local citizens and law enforcement. Like Easy Rider, this film plays up the clash between conservative rural America and the counterculture. It's not like Arlo's actual life, however, as the incidents depicted in the film causing Arlo to leave Montana didn't happen.

Over the course of the film Arlo makes multiple visits to his bedridden father, Woody (Joseph Boley), who dies during the story. In real life, Woody Guthrie passed in 1967. During one visit, Arlo accompanies folk legend Pete Seeger, as himself, playing for Woody:
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(Unfortunately, that video has that annoying effect going on that makes it look like the background is moving behind the characters.)

We also see Arlo performing in the film while playing gigs. And the chorus of the song appears in-story as a local radio commercial jingle that Arlo records for Ray and Alice.

The garbage dump incident, which kicks off the chain of events described in the song, happens halfway into the film. Said events are, as in the song, played up for absurdity.

Arlo said:
Obie, do you think we're gonna hang ourselves for litterin'?


[Arlo hands a clerk his urine sample.]
Clerk: That ain't enough.
Arlo: That's all I had.

Arlo said:
I mean I'm sittin' here on the Group W bench 'cause you wanna know if I'm moral enough to join the Army and burn women, kids, houses, children, and villages after bein' a litterbug!


There are more serious antiwar beats to be found as well, such as a friend just out of the Army who now has a hook for a hand.

During the trial, the evidence is described in Arlo's narration as being 8 x 10 color glossy photographs, as in the song, but the pictures that we see onscreen are in black and white.

Of note, Officer Obie is played by William Obanhein, the actual police chief who arrested Arlo and a friend for the dumping incident.

In contrast to the humorous events of the song, the added dramatic storyline involving Alice, Ray, and Shelly feels like it wants to be in its own film. The climactic hippie wedding at the deconsecrated church where Alice and Ray live is based on an actual event, however.

One item that really stood out for me...at Shelly's funeral, Tigger Outlaw (apparently known mainly for appearing in this film; perhaps related to Geoff Outlaw, who played Roger Crowther) performs a Joni Mitchell song called "Songs to Aging Children Come," which I found hauntingly familiar, causing me to wonder when I might have heard it before. Possibly going way back to early childhood?
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Joni's original:
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Overall, I found this film to be a decent contributor to the immersive sign-o-the-timesiness, though it isn't playing on the same field as the likes of Easy Rider and Midnight Cowboy. And the song's story did grow on me via its retelling in the film.

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May Pang?
;)
I meant band-wise, not, y'know...

It would certainly be a lot better than everybody indulging Mr. Marie's painfully Victorian sexual mores.
:)

"Exterminator" was a bad choice then . "Mouse Whisperer" would have been better.
The exterminator did make a crack about Ann needing a guy with a flute and a funny hat.

Does she have Mouse Trap? :D
Nope, a couple of presumably made up games and Monopoly.

Apparently, Ann wants a guy just like the guy that married dear old Mom.
Quite likely, now that you mention it.

Still kind of a step up.
Harsh.
 
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I was not overly familiar with the 18-1/2-minute song upon which the film is based, though I was generally aware of its status as a Thanksgiving tradition for some
I wouldn't call it a Thanksgiving tradition for me, although I do like the song.

Note that I'd be inclined to post the song here for reference, but it includes an account of somebody using the f****t slur
It would probably be obvious if I saw it, but right now I have no idea what that's supposed to be. :rommie:

It's not like Arlo's actual life, however, as the incidents depicted in the film causing Arlo to leave Montana didn't happen.
When I write my autobiography, it's going to be legendary. :mallory:

(Unfortunately, that video has that annoying effect going on that makes it look like the background is moving behind the characters.)
It's the drugs, man.

Of note, Officer Obie is played by William Obanhein, the actual police chief who arrested Arlo and a friend for the dumping incident.
Now that's cool.

One item that really stood out for me...at Shelly's funeral, Tigger Outlaw (apparently known mainly for appearing in this film; perhaps related to Geoff Outlaw, who played Roger Crowther) performs a Joni Mitchell song called "Songs to Aging Children Come," which I found hauntingly familiar, causing me to wonder when I might have heard it before. Possibly going way back to early childhood?
I'm not familiar with that one.

Overall, I found this film to be a decent contributor to the immersive sign-o-the-timesiness, though it isn't playing on the same field as the likes of Easy Rider and Midnight Cowboy. And the song's story did grow on me via its retelling in the film.
Sounds like fun, although I am very opposed to littering.

The exterminator did make a crack about Ann needing a guy with a flute and a funny hat.
:rommie:

Well, I'm not French.
 
55 Years Ago This Week

Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Day by Day said:
September 6 – Olympia Stadium, Detroit.
September 7 – Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto.
September 8 – Forum, Montreal. The Beatles' flight to Jacksonville, Florida after the Montreal gig is directed instead to Key West, Florida after warnings of a hurricane heading for Jacksonville. It does arrive there, so the Beatles stay at a hotel in Key West until the morning of 11 September.
Wiki said:
September 10 – The African Development Bank (AfDB) is founded.
September 11 – In Jacksonville, Florida, John Lennon announces that the Beatles will not play to a segregated audience.
The Beatles Day by Day said:
September 11 – Gator Bowl, Jacksonville.
September 12 – Boston Garden, Boston.


Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:
1. "The House of the Rising Sun," The Animals
2. "Where Did Our Love Go," The Supremes
3. "Because," The Dave Clark Five
4. "Everybody Loves Somebody," Dean Martin
5. "Bread and Butter," The Newbeats
6. "C'mon and Swim," Bobby Freeman
7. "G.T.O.," Ronny & The Daytonas
8. "A Hard Day's Night," The Beatles
9. "Remember (Walkin' in the Sand)," The Shangri-Las
10. "Oh, Pretty Woman," Roy Orbison
11. "Selfish One," Jackie Ross
12. "And I Love Her," The Beatles
13. "Under the Boardwalk," The Drifters
14. "Maybe I Know," Lesley Gore
15. "Maybelline," Johnny Rivers
16. "Haunted House," Jumpin' Gene Simmons

18. "How Do You Do It," Gerry & The Pacemakers

20. "You Never Can Tell," Chuck Berry
21. "It Hurts to Be in Love," Gene Pitney
22. "Save It for Me," The Four Seasons
23. "We'll Sing in the Sunshine," Gale Garnett
24. "Baby I Need Your Loving," Four Tops
25. "Dancing in the Street," Martha & The Vandellas
26. "Walk, Don't Run '64," The Ventures
27. "It's All Over Now," The Rolling Stones
28. "Funny (How Time Slips Away)," Joe Hinton
29. "I'm on the Outside (Looking In)," Little Anthony & The Imperials
30. "Wishin' and Hopin'," Dusty Springfield
31. "Do Wah Diddy Diddy," Manfred Mann
32. "People Say," The Dixie Cups
33. "Such a Night," Elvis Presley
34. "Just Be True," Gene Chandler
35. "Out of Sight," James Brown & His Orchestra
36. "I'll Cry Instead," The Beatles
37. "Ain't She Sweet," The Beatles

42. "Matchbox," The Beatles

44. "A Summer Song," Chad & Jeremy

48. "You Must Believe Me," The Impressions

51. "From a Window," Billy J. Kramer w/ The Dakotas

53. "Ringo's Theme (This Boy)," George Martin & His Orchestra
54. "Let It Be Me," Betty Everett & Jerry Butler

56. "Rhythm," Major Lance

58. "When I Grow Up (to Be a Man)," The Beach Boys
59. "If I Fell," The Beatles
60. "Last Kiss," J. Frank Wilson & The Cavaliers

65. "Girl (Why You Wanna Make Me Blue)," The Temptations

67. "Slow Down," The Beatles

77. "Mercy, Mercy," Don Covay & The Goodtimers

84. "Little Honda," The Hondells

86. "Come a Little Bit Closer," Jay & The Americans

90. "Tobacco Road," The Nashville Teens


Leaving the chart:
  • "Everybody Needs Somebody to Love," Solomon Burke (8 weeks)
  • "Handy Man," Del Shannon (10 weeks)
  • "I'll Keep You Satisfied," Billy J. Kramer w/ The Dakotas (7 weeks)
  • "I Wanna Love Him So Bad," The Jelly Beans (12 weeks)
  • "The Little Old Lady (from Pasadena)," Jan & Dean (11 weeks)
  • "Rag Doll," The Four Seasons (12 weeks)
  • "Steal Away," Jimmy Hughes (12 weeks)
  • "Tell Me (You're Coming Back)," The Rolling Stones (10 weeks)
  • "(You Don't Know) How Glad I Am," Nancy Wilson (11 weeks)

Recent and new on the chart:

"Rhythm," Major Lance
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(Aug. 22; #24 US; #3 R&B)

"From a Window," Billy J. Kramer w/ The Dakotas
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(Aug. 22; #23 US; #10 UK; written by John Lennon & Paul McCartney--really Paul)

"Tobacco Road," The Nashville Teens
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(#14 US; #6 UK)

"Little Honda," The Hondells
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(#9 US; written by Brian Wilson & Mike Love)

"Come a Little Bit Closer," Jay & The Americans
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(#3 US)

Total Beatles songs on the chart: 7

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I wouldn't call it a Thanksgiving tradition for me, although I do like the song.
It's a tradition for some radio stations to play it on the holiday, which is how I heard part of the song once. This likely goes back to closer to its original release, when it's said to have been big on freeform radio.

It would probably be obvious if I saw it, but right now I have no idea what that's supposed to be. :rommie:
The word's more benign definition is "a bundle of sticks or twigs bound together as fuel."

Now that's cool.
He said something to the effect that he'd rather make a fool of himself than have somebody else make a fool of him.

I'm not familiar with that one.
Now I did have the film on in the background on Decades years back, so the song may have caught my attention then...but this felt different. It was like a fairly intense deja vu moment.

I may look into that album just based on that song.
 
20. "You Never Can Tell," Chuck Berry
One of my favorite of Chuck's classics.
"From a Window," Billy J. Kramer w/ The Dakotas
(Aug. 22; #23 US; #10 UK; written by John Lennon & Paul McCartney--really Paul)
I mean REALLY Paul. The song sounds SO Paul and I just love it. I had completely forgotten "From a Window" and how much I used to love it, until I clicked on the vid. Perfectly crafted little pop song.
"Come a Little Bit Closer," Jay & The Americans
One of those corny little pop tunes that I liked back in the day, but would have been loathe to admit I liked back in the day. :)
 
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