I think they could bring MirrorLorca into Discovery S3 by saying the ISS Charon's giant glowing weakspot transported him forward in time through the mycelial network instead of killing him.
did any one read the discovery novel "Drastic Measure"? where they introduced Prime Lorca? if so what was his personality like?
I believe from what I've read that Star Trek Online has Prime Lorca too, voiced by Isaacs, with the changeover happening in-game (they don't outright say it, but the next time you see Lorca after a scene, he's suddenly mean and ruthless)
I think it would be funny and fitting to make them literally the same guy anyways - a damaged, broken, gray area Human. Until the end, Lorca seemed to be decent for a Terran (although that doesn't mean much) and I think it would be ironic and fitting if the two occupied the same gray moral ground.
Honestly, a show with those 3 as the lead interests me much more than most of the actual cast of Discovery - its the future plotline that has me intrigued. If Pike, Spock, Number One, Georgiou, Lorca and Ash all got to share a show together, it could be the greatest thing ever. (I am actually still wondering if the two shows could actually become one show.)
Mirror Lorca and Prime Lorca shouldn't be that much different except for the 'evil' bit. As Mirror Lorca was for the most part somewhat ambiguous, neither character should be at the extremes of the behavioural spectrum.
I don't like an idea of S31 show, but I would fully accept the plot where Ash as a new lead of S31 needs to turn this "gray zone" to the light side - clean up near-criminal activity, discover the secret bases, stop the dangerous experiments, establish diplomatic relations with aliens, what else? - and "Big E" under Pike's command is coming to help. Prime Lorca and Mirror Georgiou could be involved logically in plot like that.
I agree somewhat. Mirror Lorca would have needed some similar traits to fool people as long as he did. Still you would maybe come back darker and dealing with trauma from having to survive the mirror universe as long as he did. I also got a idea. He was on mirror Discovery and he has gone all Patty Hearst and is working with Captain Killy and a few other survivors of the destruction of her ship. Jason
I think he's a 'back pocket' option for the show. If all else fails, here's Prime Lorca. It would be fantastic to bring him in with no knowledge of his MU counterpart's actions, and the crew forbidden from telling him. Especially if he's virtually identical in terms of personality.
It would be more fantastic if "Enterprise" found Prime Lorca. According to the official version, he is the one who has destroyed his ship with the crew and has betrayed another crew during the war. Looks like in 23 century, after death of Adm. Cornwell and "Discovery"s jump to the future, only Tyler knows the truth about Lorca (maybe Pike doesn't know but guesses). For anybody else Lorca is a traitor.
I think this show needs some tongue-in-cheek running jokes, like Lorca being completely different but nobody noticing that anything is amiss. It would be like how everyone on DS9 said how talkative and sociable Morn was, but we only ever saw him sitting there not saying anything. Kor
And he was a sparring partner for Worf. And Dax had a crush on him but never felt she had a chance with him. ("Who Mourns for Morn")
Agreed. Hell, he fooled Starfleet into giving him Discovery (and fooled Admiral Cornwell until he tried murdering her for cuddling after sex). So, I could see Mirror Lorca and Prime Lorca being pretty similar personality-wise. I wouldn't want to see Prime Lorca as a goody-two-shoes Kirk/Picard/Pike ripoff. Lorca's more interesting as a d-bag OR, what if they do a twist on the twist and we find out Mirror Lorca was actually Prime Lorca who went to the Mirror Universe and did all the things Mirror Lorca allegedly did, then got sent back to our universe and commanded Disco to get back to the MU And the REAL Mirror Lorca is actually an OK guy?
A remarkable fanart from https://twitter.com/ste_illustrates: Prime Captain Lorca vs Terran Captain Pike https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECQiU8WWkAMi_RO?format=jpg&name=large
I'd love to see Lorca on Discovery. The novel "Drastic Measures" indicates prime-Lorca is still alive in a prison in the Mirror Universe. I don't think that was just added on a whim. While books are not 'canon' I think they wanted to leave an opening to bringing back Isaacs at some point as prime-Lorca. I'm frankly surprised his admiral girlfriend was so willing to write him off as dead. The novel was a good read as well--focused on the Tarsus IV massacre and Kodos the Executioner. It's a Lorca-prime story as well. It's amusing for me because I read the novel before seeing the show. So when I watched the show I kept thinking Lorca seemed a bit off from what I read about him in the novel. It seemed odd that the book, being written along with the shows airing, would have a depiction that seemed off. Obviously once I watched season 1 I discovered there was a very good reason for that . I was like "NOW I GET IT". And of course the epilogue of the novel was a bit confusing for me at first until I saw the show. But I'd love to see the return of Lorca. I'd love to see how prime-Lorca and mirror-Lorca were different....and yes, what ways they might be similar.
She'd just disintegrated a bowl of cookies, discharging a phaser on "kill" during a command meeting. I think you could rack it up to a near perfect score for bad decisions Admiral Cornwell showed over her career.