Not entirely sure why anyone would care to be honest.
I preferred the Prime timeline.
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Not entirely sure why anyone would care to be honest.
Disney can recut A New Hope.
Add stuff and subtract stuff.
Rouge One: The Day After.
Add stuff and subtract stuff.
Rouge One: The Day After.
I doubt they'd ever come out and say anything was non-canon. At most it'd be like how Logan treated the other X-Men films: "About a third of it happened, and not like that."
Or like Halloween and Terminator keep making sequels to their first or second instalments but keep ignoring the rest. They don't explicitly say the others don't count, but the new stories don't leave room for the old ones.
I like that.
But the question is what constitutes canon. If the owners have absolute say, then that's that. But they have to cater to the wishes of fandom, so the question then is what can or cannot be done.
No, they don't. That's just fan entitlement. The makers can do anything they want with their product. You can buy/watch it or not just like anyone else. They have no obligation to provide any group of fans what they want or wish for.
Because many Star Trek fans actually do care about stuff like this.
I noticed.
Problem is arguing about it is always going to go nowhere, because none of it really makes any sense at all and we're way past the point where it ever could.
Might be worth just enjoying the TV show and leaving it there.
That's fine, in theory. But there are a lot of people who want to discuss things like this, and sites like this are designed for such discussion. Are you telling me that I should just ignore something I want to discuss?
I've not told you anything.
Didn't even address you.
Merely expressed my own opinion on an open forum that the obsession with continuity and canon is silly, especially when they only exist in the heads of the people doing the obsessing.
You don't have to address me personally, just like I don't have to listen or heed or care about your opinion about what I feel like talking about in an open forum.
And as far as I'm concerned, our discussion about this is over.
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They really, really don't. In fact, they never have and probably never will, and that's for the best.
I think part of the problem is that we get beaten over the head with canon any more. From writers and others involved in productions constantly talking about it, to YouTube videos that are solely about it. It has become an overwhelming obsession for some folks.
It's been an obsession at least since Abrams trek.
It really is unbelievably offensive to refer to something written by a professional author and professionally edited as "fan fiction."
No kidding.
Even more so that they're still publishing those books and printing new copies of them.
Sure, they're not canon anymore, but Disney is still selling them.
It's not so much 'canon' that's an issue for me. As far as I'm concerned, anything that CBS declares is canon, is canon. My issue, rather, is continuity. I understand that it's not easy to make 50+ years of Trek shows and movies fit all together cohesively. It's just not realistic to expect that the people in charge of DSC are going to remember every little esoteric thing from TOS. That's not the problem. The problem is the people behind DSC have always claimed that it takes place in the prime Trek timeline, even though they've made no effort at all to be consistent with that. They set DSC in a time period where we already knew what everything looked like, and then they went out of their way to make it all look as different as possible.
And before anyone chimes in with "Did you expect a 2019 show to have the same production values as a 1966 show?"...No, of course not. But then if your 2019 show looks and feels nothing like that 1966 show, then don't advertise it as a prequel to said show. Advertise it as its own thing.
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You’re singing to the choir!
How you tell the story depends on what the story is. This story is Star Trek: Picard, not Star Trek: Seven of Nine, so her arc will be addressed as much as it needs to be to tell Picard’s story.
What counts as canon Batman? People don’t bother to say, “Hear ye, hear ye, the Adam West TV series and the Tim Burton be no longer of the sacred canon. Ye shall speak of them no more.”
For that matter, what counts as canon Ghost in the Shell? The live action movie is incompatible with the various anime productions, some of which may have incompatibilities between them already, and they’re all incompatible with the original manga, and all of this stuff is a lot less old than Star Trek. But people don’t seem to care so much.
The owners have absolute say. If the fans don’t like it (as if fans are ever united on anything), there’ll be new fans. Happens all the time.
The only people they have absolute say over is the folks working for them and licensees’.
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