New Picard SDCC Trailer

[Steve Roby]

How dare anyone not fellate dear leader Kurtzman and accept dogshit lazy writing as the best thing ever.

Dude whatever. Those of us who are critical of the new shows are always insulted, called close minded, idiots and Midnights Edge cultists and you mods do nothing to keep the conversation civil when it's Disco fan brigade insulting us only intervening when we snap back.
I've been civil and written in-depth critiques of what is wrong with the writing and plotting of these new shows and what do I get "lol stay mad", "what an idiot who says everything wrong" and where are you mods with the warnings then?
Expecting those of us critical of the shows to be civil when all we get it snarky disingenous shade thrown at us is a bit rich.

I just like the juxtaposition of these two posts. All I need to add is that, when discussions on TrekBBS get annoying and you find that certain users consistently tick you off, you can use the Ignore feature and not see their stuff any more.

I’m not bitching about anything. I liked the Picard trailer and I like Michael Chabon. I do wish Fuller was kept on Discovery though.

Perhaps I misinterpreted the meaning of “they replaced him with a hack that they could control in Alex Kurtzman.” My bad.

 

[nutshell]

One thing I’ll say about this trailer is that it made a lot of people smile. And there isn’t a damn thing wrong with that.

Forgive me if this is a trite point, but I feel like we have turned a corner with Trek. We are no longer stuck in an anomaly where every Trek production must try to bask in the reflected glory of TOS, which is where we have been since ENT was announced. With DSC’s leap, the death (?) of the Kelvinverse productions, Picard, and Lower Decks it feels like we’re finally seeing the universe move forward. Star Wars has been ahead of us in this respects - it did it’s prequels, now it’s confidently moving onwards. Trek seems to me like it’s ready to do the same.

I can’t wait to see where this all goes.

Thank you! I feel the same way, which is why I’m totally cool with Tarantino playing in the sandbox. The future of Trek is wide open, and that’s a good thing.

 

[Tarek71]

I could see Seven and Hugh contacting disconnected Drones, as well as the Borg Cooperative members who wanted to keep their enhancements but find a new way to live. Some might have wanted every last trace of Borg tech removed and try to get back to the lives the Borg ripped them from years ago. Others want to find another way to be Borg. A lot of possibilities there.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think the story will have something to do with displaced Borg drones, perhaps all bundled together in a resettlement camp somewhere, and that the Borg cube that we see is actually a Federation facility that gets taken over by renegade Romulans. I think the "no assimilations in 16 years" thing is Chekhov's gun and it must be fired at some point. Perhaps the Romulans want the Borg tech as a means to regain their lost glory and power. That could only end well.

 

[JKM]

So I just watched the trailer out of curiosity more than anything. I'm rather amused. It's as if someone picked all the things I dislike most about TNG(Which, okay, is pretty much everything) and Voyager(I loathed Seven and Borg) and decided to create a show about them. I just find that funny. I'll probably try to watch it at some point, but just like viewing the trailer, it will be when I'm too bored to do anything else.

Happy to see other ST fans excited though! Star Trek Fans are such a diverse base that it's good to see some of those who dislike the newer stuff getting a show they might enjoy more.

 

[Verteron]

I think the story will have something to do with displaced Borg drones, perhaps all bundled together in a resettlement camp somewhere, and that the Borg cube that we see is actually a Federation facility that gets taken over by renegade Romulans. I think the "no assimilations in 16 years" thing is Chekhov's gun and it must be fired at some point. Perhaps the Romulans want the Borg tech as a means to regain their lost glory and power. That could only end well.

Perhaps the events set in to motion by the destruction of the transwarp hub were fairly cataclysmic for the Borg, at least on a local scale?

You could imagine a backstory (pre-Picard) where a bunch of ships are suddenly disconnected as the hive mind collapses in a particular area of the galaxy that the hub served. Most of the ships are lost to automated protocols triggering self destruct, or perhaps scuttled by the drones themselves as they're unable to coordinate to maintain ship functions.

A few ships survive and the various races are competing for the scraps.

 

[danellis]

.... I figured we'd see someone from VOY, but I thought it would be Janeway as one of Picard's contacts in Starfleet Command.

Do we know who played the admiral Picard's talking to in the trailer - we only see her briefly and from behind, but I thought she had a strong Mulgrew/Janeway vibe?


dJE

 

[Tuskin38]

we only see her briefly and from behind

You see part of her face too, it isn't Kate.

 

[danellis]

You see part of her face too, it isn't Kate.

Thanks.

I figured I'd've seen it mentioned somewhere if it was, I just got a mega-vibe from it.


dJE

 

[JD]

When Seven showed up in the trailer for Picard, in that split second, part of me just thought "oh god, here we go". I like Voyager more than almost anyone else in the universe seems to and Seven is one of my favourite characters, but teaming her up with Picard raised a red flag for me - the writers are just shoving together iconic characters we like and hoping the magic sort of happens from there. I know that's a dumb reaction based on nothing more than a short trailer which told us little about the show, and I hope to be proven completely wrong (I have ultimate faith in Patrick Stewart and Jeri Ryan to uplift any material anyway).

I'm a big fan of the Star Trek books, and they do this kind of stuff all the time, back in 2014 they had a book, No Time Like the Past, where Seven was sent back in time to the 23rd Century, and teamed up with Kirk and the rest of The Original Series cast. It's actually one of the things I've liked best about the books, and Seven and Picard teaming up is one of the things I'm most looking forward to in Picard.

 

[Prax]

I discovered something about the trailer that I haven't seen mentioned here: The android in the drawer is Lore

 

[F. King Daniel]

I discovered something about the trailer that I haven't seen mentioned here: The android in the drawer is Lore

Brent said it's B-4, although he specified he is actually playing Data.

 

[KennyB]

I discovered something about the trailer that I haven't seen mentioned here: The android in the drawer is Lore

How did you make that discovery? Like Daniel said Spiner stated it was B-4. Do you have a source?

 

[KennyB]

So I just watched the trailer out of curiosity more than anything. I'm rather amused. It's as if someone picked all the things I dislike most about TNG(Which, okay, is pretty much everything) and Voyager(I loathed Seven and Borg) and decided to create a show about them.

Look I agree with you about Seven and Voyager.......my least favorite Trek. However, it was the writing not the characters. I really disliked the focus shifting to Seven when she arrived. I do think seeing her out of the skin tight catsuit is a good sign. I hope the focus is on her as an ex-drone and not her boobs for a change.

 

[nutshell]

Look I agree with you about Seven and Voyager.......my least favorite Trek. However, it was the writing not the characters. I really disliked the focus shifting to Seven when she arrived. I do think seeing her out of the skin tight catsuit is a good sign. I hope the focus is on her as an ex-drone and not her boobs for a change.

Just rewatched Voyager and Seven has a great arc and is part of some very engaging stories. I disliked her in the beginning because of the whole “boobs and legs” thing, but now I realize those took a backseat to the storytelling.

 

[donners22]

So I just watched the trailer out of curiosity more than anything. I'm rather amused. It's as if someone picked all the things I dislike most about TNG(Which, okay, is pretty much everything) and Voyager(I loathed Seven and Borg) and decided to create a show about them. I just find that funny. I'll probably try to watch it at some point, but just like viewing the trailer, it will be when I'm too bored to do anything else.

TNG's my least-favourite live action Trek series, but I'm hoping that greater creative freedom for the writers and the key involvement of someone as talented as Michael Chabon can make it work. Hopefully there'll be something in the finished product for you.

Happy to see other ST fans excited though! Star Trek Fans are such a diverse base that it's good to see some of those who dislike the newer stuff getting a show they might enjoy more.

Well, that's a refreshingly nice and mature attitude. I wish it was more common.

 

[Vger23]

I noticed Vazquez Rocks as a shooting location in the trailer.

 

[Salinga]

Someone made the effort to "fix" Data's appearance in the trailer:

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[Salinga]

Hana Hatae, Cirroc Lofton and Aron Eisenberg review and discuss the new PIC trailer.

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[Turtletrekker]

That's really cool. It reminded me of a novel that teamed up Jake Nog and Molly for a good portion of the plot (Fallen Heroes?).

And it made me realize how much I want to see Captain Nog.