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Star Trek: Picard teaser trailer

Ok, how about this. He retired in 2384, planted some grapes, got some 2386 vintage wine bottles, got called back to service to lead an armada (really? no one else could do it?) then retired again? Confusing...



God, hate that stupid nova and everything to do with it. Bleeh.
So assuming 86 stands for 2386, he must have already been retired couple years before then. So, either he retired in 2384 unrelated to Hobus, or Hobus just got retconned into happening 3 years earlier than in ST09. If it's the latter, it's not the worst thing to happen in Trek.
To be fair, the 2387 Hobus date was outright stated as a stardate in the 2009 film, which means there's wiggle room to change that to any Earth year they want, regardless of what unofficial stardate translations, which were never stated onscreen, mean.
 
Okay, it's SO obvious no one has ever really talked about it much, but:
  • It friggin' starts with Picard at his wine-yard in France
Whatever happened next - these guys are familiar with Picard! Hell, they even played the flute.

Now I know, "Picard at his wineyard" is kind of the obvious starting point for a show about Picard, after "All good things".

But yeah, it's a goddamn relieve to have a Star Trek show "get the obvious right" right from the start!
If the Hobus supernova truly is the event they're talking about involving a "rescue armada" (and chances are good, since Kurtzman said that was the event that kinda' broke him) - they even get that point right so far.

Goddamn. Feels good.
 
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Not really, Spock was still too late to save the planet, because it happened sooner than expected.
If we are really talking about "years" notice, then why did Spock had to take the "fastest" ship they had, and get there quickly. If it was years, Nero would have been thanking Spock as the only one trying to save the planet while no one else didn't even bother. I take the nova events of ST09 taking place within about a day, and Spock was maybe late by couple minutes or so.
 
For me the hardest emotional impact was right at the end, with the chimes playing the theme to TNG. I actually cried when I heard that.

Thought it was the flute that Picard got in The Inner Light episode that was playing. Slashfilm.com had the trailer along with a TNG clip of older brother well-intentionally baiting Picard into a fight to draw out his PTSD... I really, really like Discovery, but this might make me actually fall in love with Trek all over again...
 
If we are really talking about "years" notice, then why did Spock had to take the "fastest" ship they had, and get there quickly. If it was years, Nero would have been thanking Spock as the only one trying to save the planet while no one else didn't even bother. I take the nova events of ST09 taking place within about a day, and Spock was maybe late by couple minutes or so.
I agree, it's really unlikely the Romulans would have had notice of a year or more the way it's presented in the 2009 film.
Thought it was the flute that Picard got in The Inner Light episode that was playing. Slashfilm.com had the trailer along with a TNG clip of older brother well-intentionally baiting Picard into a fight to draw out his PTSD... I really, really like Discovery, but this might make me actually fall in love with Trek all over again...
And that brother was killed off in Generations, in an accident that should have been preventable in the 24th century (although Robert was a Luddite, it seems bizarre he wouldn't have fire safety equipment near him and his son). And Picard never liked Robert anyway.

The Trek franchise just keeps piling on the angst on long-lived characters, I wonder what they would have done to Kirk if he hadn't been killed off.
 
Not directly. The red matter Spock used to stop the supernova is what threw him and Nero into the Kelvin Timeline.

But it basically started the whole thing, destruction of Romulus, the Kelvin timeline, etc. That actually excites me in that there are many directions they can go with it. Also, if CBS and Viacom merge, we might not get another Kelvin film, but that whole thing might still be involved in this show.
 
Looks great. Looking forward to it. Remember the Discovery teaser that looked like something from Babylon 5? Glad they learned their lesson.
 
Is the Hobus Supernova what caused the timelines to differentiate in the Kelvin film. I don't play Star Trek Online, so I'm a little lost in this conversation.

The Hobus supernova did not directly cause the timelines to split. But it contributed to it. The red matter that Spock used to try to stop the supernova, created a black hole that Nero used to time travel back in time. Nero, time traveling back in time, and destroying the USS Kelvin, is what specifically created the Kelvin Timeline.
 
I do hope there is a legit connection to the Kelvin timeline, and maybe we learn that they know what happened to Spock. Maybe they establish that Spock was able to communicate and let them know Nero's fate.
 
I do hope there is a legit connection to the Kelvin timeline, and maybe we learn that they know what happened to Spock. Maybe they establish that Spock was able to communicate and let them know Nero's fate.
I liked Star Trek Beyond, but I wish they had just given Spock a happy ending after 50 years and not have him die in some timeline unknown to him. Spock Prime could have just gone back to his own timeline and Quinto's Spock would still be dealing with the same sense of loss.

Then we could have all pretended Spock died peacefully at home with his friends like Scotty, Picard, etc.
 
Official Poster :techman:

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I think I like the silver logo even more :)
 
Not really, Spock was still too late to save the planet, because it happened sooner than expected.
But I think Nero's anger was generalized toward all Vulcans because of their sitting on their hands, and Spock just happens to be a Vulcan - who also, to Nero, seems like maybe he did *worse* than nothing, but actually gave false hope about being able to help or false information about the timing of the Supernova that doomed people who could have evacuated.
 
Bourgogne-Franche-Comté... so it looks like a final on-screen confirmation that this or this is the La Barre we're talking about. Wikipedia already lists both as Picard's birthplace and cites the Encyclopedia for it. I don't have a copy of it so I don't know if the book is where La Barre's location comes from.
This was in DSC, though never clearly seen on screen
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And that brother was killed off in Generations, in an accident that should have been preventable in the 24th century (although Robert was a Luddite, it seems bizarre he wouldn't have fire safety equipment near him and his son). And Picard never liked Robert anyway.

The Trek franchise just keeps piling on the angst on long-lived characters, I wonder what they would have done to Kirk if he hadn't been killed off.
Eventually kill him off.

ETA: No feeling this one for Picard.
 
Here's the best theory I have about why he leaves Starfleet: When Romulus is destroyed, the Federation handles the influx of refugees poorly....I think we are probably looking at the creation of a humanitarian crisis of the Taursus IV / Kodos variety. Picard pleads with the Federation to do something but with the Dominion War having taken its toll, it just can't. Thousands of Romulan refugees die. Picard takes this personally after he was the architect of the rescue armada and played a roll in helping to secure a future for the Romulans.

This would play well with he "Trek tackling culturally significant issues on screen." My guess is that is going to be the event that drove him out.....but now something has happened to bring him back in.

Anyone else get the vibe that they may be doing something else to "reboot" his character? Wonder if McAvoy will be recast as a young Picard?
 
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