Are you referring to the TWOK or TMP uniforms? I ask because both the spacesuit and rad suit for made for TMP and while he may have used wool for the monster maroons, he may have used different materials for the TMP uniforms.
Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)
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My quick search saw gabardine mentioned in connection with TMP. Not a lot came up for TWOK, oddly enough.
I would argue the opposite. Why wouldn’t synthetic fabrics in the 23rd century look like the natural fiber fabrics of today? Probably more comfortable to wear. We have to be careful when analyzing futuristic technology through our 21st century lens.
I think the fact that the various uniforms and suits don’t look like the synthetic materials of the era they were made in helps keeps it from looking as dated.
I think the fact that the various uniforms and suits don’t look like the synthetic materials of the era they were made in helps keeps it from looking as dated.
After trying a few different material setups, I've decided it indeed looks best with a simple wool gabardine fabric texture.
Not finished yet, still have to add the metal control panel bits on the arms and legs, but it's almost there! Some of the details up close really show my novice ability with sculpting clothing, but I remind myself I am not a character artist. Luckily, this space suit is just used as a prop and isn't meant to be a hero character model.
Not finished yet, still have to add the metal control panel bits on the arms and legs, but it's almost there! Some of the details up close really show my novice ability with sculpting clothing, but I remind myself I am not a character artist. Luckily, this space suit is just used as a prop and isn't meant to be a hero character model.
Looks really good Donny!
On the production side, I wonder if they had to make significant alterations so Walter Koenig and Paul Winfield could fit into them? They were created the be worn by Shatner and Nimoy originally.
Are you planning to do the “Memory Wall / SLV” versions of the space suits as well?
*edit* or Spock’s thruster pack? Complete with the (uncredited) Majel Barrett computer voice?
On the production side, I wonder if they had to make significant alterations so Walter Koenig and Paul Winfield could fit into them? They were created the be worn by Shatner and Nimoy originally.
Are you planning to do the “Memory Wall / SLV” versions of the space suits as well?
*edit* or Spock’s thruster pack? Complete with the (uncredited) Majel Barrett computer voice?
I do have plans to eventually model the thruster pack, but not the memory wall suits.
So will you put the thruster pack suits in the airlock instead of the memory wall ones?
Yep. I know it’s a little non-canon as far as TMP goes since we see the memory wall suits in the airlock in that film. But since the only suits we actually see worn and used in TMP and TWOK are the ones I modeled, I think it makes sense overall to use them instead.
I agree.
I guess I have a soft spot for those non-cannon spacesuits. They seem more “TMP” to me than the other ones. The screen used ones in TMP and TWOK look like generic spaces to me. Those other ones have this weird 70s kewl factor with the angular helmets. Why does there need to be only one kind of space suit for all jobs and purposes? To me it makes sense that each type of spacesuit has different things they are more adept at. Aquatic explorations?
Of course you could just say those suits are hidden in a locker somewhere so you don’t actually have to model them. :-)
Of course you could just say those suits are hidden in a locker somewhere so you don’t actually have to model them. :-)
I will admit the completionist in me wants to model the "Memory Wall" suits. But if I do so it will be much later. Although I enjoy the end result I got with this canon suit, I honestly didn't enjoy the process as much as I thought I would. So I'll have to give it a wait to recharge those particular batteries before modeling another space suit.
Can you imagine ever getting to the point when you'd want to try modeling the actors?
I'd love to, but you must understand I have almost no experience whatsoever modeling characters and faces. Character modeling is a very different discipline altogether from hard-surface modeling, which I specialize in and in which I have spent 20 years in training. It's absolutely not something I could pick up overnight, or even with a few months of work.
Unless I decide to put years of time into learning how to master character modeling and likenesses, I doubt anything I come up with would match the quality of my exteriors and ships. And having all assets included in my renders be of the same quality is of paramount importance to me.
That being said, I do want to continue gaining some experience with at least modeling uniforms and other clothing like I did with the EV suit. I think I could easily model the engineering radsuit next, and then perhaps the away team jacket, duty unifroms, cadet uniforms, etc. I could then find some stock heads somewhere so that I could populate my renders with personnel. But, that's a lot of work that will take time to complete.
It would be much more likely and more time-efficient to find another passionate Trek fan that also happens to be an excellent character artist who'd willfully join me and help out in that regard. I have not yet found anyone willing, save for one person who seems to not have the time he thought he'd have to contribute.
When it proves convenient, hope you will post some orthos of the those thruster suits. I know you can't share the 3D files themselves, but from elevation renders I might (just maybe) be able to slap something together vaguely resembling the "chest box" and helmet from TMP and TWoK.
Great stuff, I always loved that design. It just looks so beautifully futuristic, yet also totally part of the late-seventies design ethos. In comparison the Memory Wall version just feels out of date.
Are you planning to model Spock's thruster pack too?
Edit - sorry, just seen you've already answered this.
Are you planning to model Spock's thruster pack too?
Edit - sorry, just seen you've already answered this.
Thanks! And yes, eventually.Great stuff, I always loved that design. It just looks so beautifully futuristic, yet also totally part of the late-seventies design ethos.
Are you planning to model Spock's thruster pack too?
Edit - sorry, just seen you've already answered this.
