If TMP had kept going

[Therin of Andor]

At the same time, we should be careful to avoid assuming that any author is writing slash with the intention of conveying that idea.

Roddenberry told the "K/S ladies" that he had put something in the novelization just for them. The term he coined "T'hy'la", clarified in the footnote, was adopted in fanzines everywhere.

Greek mythology has "Hylas", a young man who was mentored by Hercules and became a great hero in his own right, as well as, in some accounts, Hercules' lover.

And a Vulcan t' prefix usually denotes femaleness.

The footnote:
"I was never aware of this lovers rumor, although I have been told that Spock encountered it several times. Apparently he had always dismissed it with his characteristic lifting of his right eyebrow which usually connoted some combination of surprise, disbelief, and/or annoyance. As for myself, although I have no moral or other objections to physical love in any of its many Earthly, alien, and mixed forms, I have always found my best gratification in that creature woman. Also, I would dislike being thought of as so foolish that I would select a love partner who came into sexual heat only once every seven years."

 

[Pauln6]

I think the notion of Kirk and Spock as lovers is overly hyped. He wouldn't engage in relationships with Rand or Noel because he viewed them as incompatible with command. The same would have been true of Spock.

They may have been sexually attracted to each other or not but that would add only a tiny bit of colour to their friendship.

 

[Discofan]

I think the notion ok Kirk and Spock as lovers is overly hyped. He wouldn't engage in relationships with Rand or Noel because he viewed them as incompatible with command. The same would have been true of Spock.

They may have been sexually attracted to each other or not but that would add only a tiny bit of colour to their friendship.

Or maybe there could be deep friendship between two males without sexual attraction.

 

[DonIago]

^Impossible.

 

[Discofan]

^Impossible.

In the 70's they used to say that about a man and a woman.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

And possibly a modesty cup for certain uniforms...

But that would cover the carbon "unit".

 

[Pauln6]

Or maybe there could be deep friendship between two males without sexual attraction.

Well, quite, but the conversation was about the paragraph in the TMP novelisation by Roddenberry himself implying that their friendship was something beyond friendship. It's quite possible that multiple mind melds draws people closer by the very nature of the process too.

What I like about keeping it vague is that it lets the fans individualise their view on how and why they were so close.

 

[Discofan]

Well, quite, but the conversation was about the paragraph in the TMP novelisation by Roddenberry himself implying that their friendship was something beyond friendship. It's quite possible that multiple mind melds draws people closer by the very nature of the process too.

What I like about keeping it vague is that it lets the fans individualise their view on how and why they were so close.

I hope that doesn't mean that a mind meld (or several) can change a person's sexual orientation.

 

[Pauln6]

I hope that doesn't mean that a mind meld (or several) can change a person's sexual orientation.

It's a melding of minds not genes, and sexual orientation appears to be influenced by genetics and epigenetics triggered by hormones in the womb. Presumably, if someone is so inclined, it might embiggen an attraction, perhaps to someone the other party finds attractive.