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when did TOS take place, 23rd century or 22nd century

What century did TOS take place


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Not really. It's not "sciencey enough to be true," it's utterly meaningless.

:wtf:

That's what "sciencey enough to be true" means. You throw enough big science words at something that it sounds like something scientific. It doesn't have to be plausible or even have any actual basis in science. It just has to SOUND LIKE science.
 
:wtf:

That's what "sciencey enough to be true" means. You throw enough big science words at something that it sounds like something scientific. It doesn't have to be plausible or even have any actual basis in science. It just has to SOUND LIKE science.

Except that's not what "true" means. That's basically the opposite of what "true" means.

Also, "sounds like" to whom? That's the point. Tossing around science words in a gibberish way that has nothing to do with what they mean may "sound like science" to someone with no knowledge of science, but to someone who does have knowledge of science, it just sounds like nonsense. Ideally you try to write for the audience members who do know the difference rather than just the ones who don't, because that way you satisfy both groups, not just the latter.
 
Probably because of that accident with the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs.

The dinosaurs are fine. There are more than twice as many avian dinosaur (aka bird) species on Earth right now than there are mammal species. The pterosaurs and ichthyosaurs weren't so lucky, though.
 
:wtf:

That's what "sciencey enough to be true" means. You throw enough big science words at something that it sounds like something scientific. It doesn't have to be plausible or even have any actual basis in science. It just has to SOUND LIKE science.

That only works in the 24th century.

Why can't we have an accident with an asteroid? :shrug:

Asking for the American voter.

Because we don't want millions of deaths and slow starvation for the survivors?

Don't worry, the world will end in 12 years.
 
And even then barely

Now that I question. Doubt it will happen people been saying the world is going to end for a very very very very long time. Although I will say this time they were a little more creative.

I doubt it most sincerely, but that's what "some" have said for many years.
 
I wonder if trelane's tech could have been used to deal with Metrons if not the Q--rather like what was used against the Ori in SG-1
 
I wonder if trelane's tech could have been used to deal with Metrons if not the Q--rather like what was used against the Ori in SG-1

"Deal with" the Metrons? Why? Of the three species you listed, they're the most benevolent.

Anyway, I resist the tendency to assume that all superraces in Trek were equally godlike. It's far more likely that there's a whole range of different levels of advancement, with the Q being as far beyond, say, the Metrons as the Metrons are beyond us. As for Trelane's species, given their dependence on technology, I doubt they're anywhere remotely near the Q's level. I don't think any TOS species approaches that except possibly the Organians.
 
I'd like to point out that there's no proof the Q don't have unseen technology enhancing their abilities. Perhaps Trelane was just young and clueless enough to give away where his was hidden - and then he displayed incredible power without it, too.
 
I'd like to point out that there's no proof the Q don't have unseen technology enhancing their abilities.

I would submit that there is evidence that they don't -- Amanda Rogers in "True Q." She manifested her Q abilities before she even knew she was a Q, and she certainly didn't have the Q Continuum's permission or approval, so they wouldn't have given her technological help without her knowlege.

"Encounter at Farpoint" did portray the Q as more limited in power than they became; it showed the Q localized to a particular area of space (which was why they didn't bother with humanity until it intruded on their turf) and using a "ship" of sorts (the bubble formed out of the chain-link forcefield) to chase the Enterprise. But every subsequent episode elevated their power to godlike omnipotence and made their presence universe-wide. Writers, as much as fans, are prone to fall into the trap of assuming that all superhuman power equals infinite power. And since the Q are the superrace that got the most appearances (other than the Prophets), they're the one whose powers got inflated to the most absurd degree.
 
That's a good point about Amanda Rodgers. IIRC she stopped a warp core breach, which is no small feat.

I do recall "The Q and the Gray" featuring Q weapons (implied to be causing the supernovae phenomenon the episode began with), although we only saw them in the form of muskets.
 
I would submit that there is evidence that they don't -- Amanda Rogers in "True Q." She manifested her Q abilities before she even knew she was a Q, and she certainly didn't have the Q Continuum's permission or approval, so they wouldn't have given her technological help without her knowle[d]ge.

Not so fast.

*If* the Q have a machine to augment their powers, and that's a big if that I've never once subscribed to, but if they do, then there's no reason to suppose that it's selective. For all we know, it automatically (in the literal sense) grants full Q powers to all Q unconditionally. In that case, they wouldn't be able to turn it off (at least not without turning off their own powers), and that would define the problem with Amanda Rogers.
 
"Deal with" the Metrons? Why? Of the three species you listed, they're the most benevolent.

Anyway, I resist the tendency to assume that all superraces in Trek were equally godlike. It's far more likely that there's a whole range of different levels of advancement, with the Q being as far beyond, say, the Metrons as the Metrons are beyond us. As for Trelane's species, given their dependence on technology, I doubt they're anywhere remotely near the Q's level. I don't think any TOS species approaches that except possibly the Organians.

Just to be perhaps immune to some of them would allow some stealth. I wonder what they talk to each other about.
 
I don't think the Metrons rated at all on the benevolence scale.

Well, I guess you could call them lawful neutral. They were trying to contain threats to their safety and to the larger peace, but were willing to destroy those threats. It was cut out of the final episode, but in the script (and the Blish version), it turned out that they actually intended to destroy the winner of the contest, not the loser as they claimed, because the winner would be the greater threat. But they said that Kirk showed "the advanced trait of mercy," so they did have some moral sense.

Anyway, the point is that the Metrons were not aggressive or actively interfering in human affairs like Trelane or Q; they only reacted to a hostile intrusion of their own territory. So I don't see why, of the three, they'd be the one in need of being "dealt with."
 
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