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Lorca was incredibly ballsy. He didn't seem bothered by prolonged stays in the agony booth and likely asked Michael to be injected with the numbing agent only so he could fake his own death to do what he did to the other guy. His men, after being in the booths for 200 hundred days and plus were right as rain and ready to fight in a matter of minutes. I bet if any of us spent more than a minute in one of these things, it would take us weeks to recover and then years to overcome the ensuing PTSD!!

I'm sure I would have been sent to the agonizer booth pretty regularly times during my school years If I had grown up in the Empire. Toughens you up when used regularly, or so I hear.
 
I've always thought it was executed really well. Burnham sensed that something was off about the ship right from the start, and as we slowly got to know the crew members she interacted with, it slowly became apparent that the crew was just as idealistic as anyone else in Starfleet - the problem was Mirror Lorca all along. Combined with the stress of the war, he pushed everyone over the edge. He wanted to get home, no matter the cost. If I had him constantly breathing down my neck and broadcasting crying children over the PA system to guilt-trip me into working harder, I would've lashed out at anyone in the general vicinity too. It wasn't lost on me how the atmosphere of the ship instantly became a million times less suffocating after they rooted him out.
It seemed to me that this is why Stamets was so cranky before the tartigrade DNA injection. He's still surly but not as much, not even with everything that has happened with Hugh.

Also, I had hoped that Michael would mention the irony that she has MU Lorca to thank for her freedom and eventual redemption, but oh well.
 
I'm sure I would have been sent to the agonizer booth pretty regularly times during my school years If I had grown up in the Empire. Toughens you up when used regularly, or so I hear.

Yes, but on the other hand if you're not afraid of the booth then how could you be afraid of anything? How do you control people that are that tough?
 
Also, I had hoped that Michael would mention the irony that she has MU Lorca to thank for her freedom and eventual redemption, but oh well.
Well, to be honest, one of the biggest things I think is missing from Discovery is some chance for the characters to finally sit down, lay back and reflect on everything that happened to them. All of the things they're constantly thrust into are just so intense and so frantic, they constantly have to be on their toes. They'd really deserve some calm time for reflection, not just Burnham, but all of them. They probably do have it off-screen, but the show makes it look like they only keep going on sheer willpower that's masking all the emotional issues they've accumulated. No wonder most of the fan-fiction I find is about conversations the characters should've had with each other.
 
I'm sure I would have been sent to the agonizer booth pretty regularly times during my school years If I had grown up in the Empire. Toughens you up when used regularly, or so I hear.
More likely turn one into a whimpering pile of human poo.

After forty+ years of working in a hospital, I've learned that an overwhelming number of folks have a pain tolerance level of a two year old and are just as expressive about it.
:rolleyes:
 
More likely turn one into a whimpering pile of human poo.

After forty+ years of working in a hospital, I've learned that an overwhelming number of folks have a pain tolerance level of a two year old and are just as expressive about it.
:rolleyes:

I must be unusual then, as I've only gone to the hospital 3 times since I was seven. The first time for a broken ankle which only made me start crying once i reached the hospital, the second time after a motorcycle accident that my mother forced me to, even though it never really hurt much and last year after I'd stepped on a nail and my foot was ballooning up like Kirk's hands in 09 and i could no longer walk on it (needed antibiotics and a tetanus shot). The most consistent agony I can remember are the sinus headaches I got in my teens, which I endured even though no pills did a damn thing for them. Not bragging, just not a toddler when it comes to pain.
 
Yes, but on the other hand if you're not afraid of the booth then how could you be afraid of anything? How do you control people that are that tough?

I guess those people you do have to space eventually. But I doubt there are many of them like that around. Touch part I guess would be identifying them.
 
Well, to be honest, one of the biggest things I think is missing from Discovery is some chance for the characters to finally sit down, lay back and reflect on everything that happened to them. All of the things they're constantly thrust into are just so intense and so frantic, they constantly have to be on their toes. They'd really deserve some calm time for reflection, not just Burnham, but all of them. They probably do have it off-screen, but the show makes it look like they only keep going on sheer willpower that's masking all the emotional issues they've accumulated. No wonder most of the fan-fiction I find is about conversations the characters should've had with each other.

I agree with this. Much like another huge favorite of mine, 24 with Kiefer Sutherland, the show could stand a little slow-down time. I always wanted 24 to just take a breather every now and then. It rarely did.
 
I agree with this. Much like another huge favorite of mine, 24 with Kiefer Sutherland, the show could stand a little slow-down time. I always wanted 24 to just take. A breather every now and then. It rarely did.

At the time I joked with my friends after the first season the second season should be the immediate following 24 hours which would certainly have involved a lot of downtime (not very exciting for the audience watching most of the cast sleeping, snorring or having to once an ep or two get up to go to the bathroom though, I would expect.
 
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At this point, I'd be glad if the crew got a "Glad we're alive" party to let some steam off, but for some reason it seems more likely that the wormhole will spit them out right into another battle.
 
At this point, I'd be glad if the crew got a "Glad we're alive" party to let some steam off, but for some reason it seems more likely that the wormhole will spit them out right into another battle.

I'm hoping they get spit out into the presence of some kind of nigh-indescribable massive megastructure. I personally want the show to dive into some serious mind expanding from the get go and not beer pong. But hey, I just watched this

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More likely turn one into a whimpering pile of human poo.

After forty+ years of working in a hospital, I've learned that an overwhelming number of folks have a pain tolerance level of a two year old and are just as expressive about it.
:rolleyes:

That depends on their line of work. My Grandfather was a coal miner he was incredibly tough. I once saw him after he's given himself accidentally a nasty gash on his hand with one of his tools, pour alcohol on the wound without so much as a wince and then sew it shut with a needle and thread. I don't know of anyone else IRL capable of that.
 
Oh there are plenty of people out there that are tough as nails, myself included.
(having spent 30 some odd years joyfully involved the S&M community around the country)

It's especially obvious with the WWII Generation, they had no choice but to grow up tougher than later generations.

But from about the late 70's on, a lot of folks have become much less tolerant of discomfort and it shows in the different age groups I deal with daily at work.
 
Until he turned out to be a bad guy, Lorca was one of the best captains of Star Fleet, better than Archer, Janeway, Sisko, and Picard at any rate. For example, he knew exactly what to say to anyone under his command to get him to do his best. I wonder what his counterpart was like.
 
Until he turned out to be a bad guy, Lorca was one of the best captains of Star Fleet, better than Archer, Janeway, Sisko, and Picard at any rate. For example, he knew what to say to anyone under his command to get him to do his best. I wonder what his counterpart was like.
Instead of broadcasting crying children and explosions over the PA system to guilt-trip you into working harder, he'd play rousing music and motivational quotes. His ready room on the Buran was plastered with cringy cat-themed motivational posters, and the computer was programmed to start playing Eye of the Tiger every time he uttered the phrase "let's get to work."
 
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