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[Four Lights]

My wife is watching discovery first time , and says why is the crew so hostile to each other

That is certainly a major problem as I love the idea of the crew as a family, but pretty much every writer and producer since Michael Piller just bitches and moans about how hard that set up then makes their job. So I've given up hoping for or expecting it anymore.

 

[Refuge]

That is certainly a major problem as I love the idea of the crew as a family, but pretty much every writer and producer since Michael Piller just bitches and moans about how hard that set up then makes their job. So I've given hoping or expecting it anymore.

Can't speak for the second series but in the first one they were very unpleasant. Landry was hostile, Stamets was bitter, Saru was insecure, Tilly was an idiot, Michael was a criminal, and Lorca was a complete fake.

 

[Four Lights]

Can't speak for the second series but in the first one they were very unpleasant. Landry was hostile, Stamets was bitter, Saru was insecure, Tilly was an idiot, Michael was a criminal, and Lorca was a complete fake.

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[seigezunt]

There were also folks that were going to eagerly lap up anything with "Star Trek" in the title. Coins usually have two sides.

I read this dismissal a lot, and have never bought it. Star Trek fans are extremely discriminating. Maybe we may disagree about what we are being discriminating about, but none of us are this idiotic.

 

[BillJ]

I read this dismissal a lot, and have never bought it. Star Trek fans are extremely discriminating. Maybe we may disagree about what we are being discriminating about, but none of us are this idiotic.

Oh yeah there are. We run the spectrum.

 

[DaveyNY]

Oh yeah there are. We run the spectrum.

This is my Spectrum...

 

[Discofan]

This is my Spectrum...

Is that the result of a peer-reviewed scientific study?

 

[fireproof78]

I read this dismissal a lot, and have never bought it. Star Trek fans are extremely discriminating. Maybe we may disagree about what we are being discriminating about, but none of us are this idiotic.

Considering the posts I've seen that gripe about DSC but still watch it I don't know if I can agree.

 

[seigezunt]

Considering the posts I've seen that gripe about DSC but still watch it I don't know if I can agree.

Eh, that's masochism, not idiocy. I'm just not buying the assertion that there are fans that are going on the assumption that "I will accept anything with Star Trek on it." I think we all complain or nitpick on some level. We just differ on what our threshold is for getting angry about it.

 

[Discofan]

Eh, that's masochism, not idiocy. I'm just not buying the assertion that there are fans that are going on the assumption that "I will accept anything with Star Trek on it." I think we all complain or nitpick on some level. We just differ on what our threshold is for getting angry about it.

People love to exaggerate and ridicule the opinions of others.

 

[DaveyNY]

Is that the result of a peer-reviewed scientific study?

Yes, I rear viewed it while I was peering scientifically.

 

[donners22]

My wife is watching discovery first time , and says why is the crew so hostile to each other

Watching the first season? If so, it's pretty explicable given the situation they're in. Even then I thought there were some lovely moments, like when people went over to sit with Ash in the mess hall. They seemed to get along for the most part in the second season.

 

[SJGardner]

Watching the first season? If so, it's pretty explicable given the situation they're in. Even then I thought there were some lovely moments, like when people went over to sit with Ash in the mess hall. They seemed to get along for the most part in the second season.

I've always thought it was executed really well. Burnham sensed that something was off about the ship right from the start, and as we slowly got to know the crew members she interacted with, it slowly became apparent that the crew was just as idealistic as anyone else in Starfleet - the problem was Mirror Lorca all along. Combined with the stress of the war, he pushed everyone over the edge. He wanted to get home, no matter the cost. If I had him constantly breathing down my neck and broadcasting crying children over the PA system to guilt-trip me into working harder, I would've lashed out at anyone in the general vicinity too. It wasn't lost on me how the atmosphere of the ship instantly became a million times less suffocating after they rooted him out.

 

[XCV330]

I've always thought it was executed really well. Burnham sensed that something was off about the ship right from the start, and as we slowly got to know the crew members she interacted with, it slowly became apparent that the crew was just as idealistic as anyone else in Starfleet - the problem was Mirror Lorca all along. Combined with the stress of the war, he pushed everyone over the edge. He wanted to get home, no matter the cost. If I had him constantly breathing down my neck and broadcasting crying children over the PA system to guilt-trip me into working harder, I would've lashed out at anyone in the general vicinity too. It wasn't lost on me how the atmosphere of the ship instantly became a million times less suffocating after they rooted him out.

ok I want to see more outtakes of Lorca using crying children to motivate the crew.

PA: Attention this is the captain. Your workstations are messy. It's a disgrace. You need to stop what you're doing right now and clean this ship up. I want these floors to shine like mirrors. There's no free rides on my ship

Murmuring: How are we supposed to get anything done when he's got us cleaning up every ten minutes.

PA: audio of crying children and explosions plays.

 

[SJGardner]

ok I want to see more outtakes of Lorca using crying children to motivate the crew.

PA: Attention this is the captain. Your workstations are messy. It's a disgrace. You need to stop what you're doing right now and clean this ship up. I want these floors to shine like mirrors. There's no free rides on my ship

Murmuring: How are we supposed to get anything done when he's got us cleaning up every ten minutes.

PA: audio of crying children and explosions plays.

I don't even want to think about how big his guilt-trip audio clip library might have been.

Cornwell: "Gabe, why did the Discovery's disk space usage go up with 35% since the last diagnostic report you've sent?"
Lorca: "No reason."

 

[seigezunt]

Watching the first season? If so, it's pretty explicable given the situation they're in.

I found it refreshing, compared to the TNG-era "nobody fights" rule

 

[starbuck]

Watching the first season? If so, it's pretty explicable given the situation they're in. Even then I thought there were some lovely moments, like when people went over to sit with Ash in the mess hall. They seemed to get along for the most part in the second season.

I kinda felt they did not know what they wanted to be felt like all over the place , and like the fringe

 

[Discofan]

Lorca was incredibly ballsy. He didn't seem bothered by prolonged stays in the agony booth and likely asked Michael to be injected with the numbing agent only so he could fake his own death to do what he did to the other guy. His men, after being in the booths for 200 hundred days and plus were right as rain and ready to fight in a matter of minutes. I bet if any of us spent more than a minute in one of these things, it would take us weeks to recover and then years to overcome the ensuing PTSD!!

 

[DEWLine]

I still crack up whenever I imagine what his reaction might have been when he expected The Witch of Wurna Minor and Cadet Foot-in-Mouth Tilly walked into his ready room instead.

*laughs right into a coughing jag, without complaint*

 

[Alan Roi]

Can't speak for the second series but in the first one they were very unpleasant. Landry was hostile, Stamets was bitter, Saru was insecure, Tilly was an idiot, Michael was a criminal, and Lorca was a complete fake.

So then... family. What? Do people think family has to always mean the Father Know's best kind of family?