Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x13 - "Such Sweet Sorrow"
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It‘s already designed that way.Can someone riddle me this: Why would the Red Angel suit that they are themselves building be also hardwired to Burnham‘s DNA?
They do not understand the specs, they blindly feed the plans into the synthesizer and have to work with what comes out.
Or they don't understand software and can't reconfigure it for someone else.
But say said „hard coded“.
To me that‘s at least short speak for „we can‘t change it (in the hour we have until control attacks“).
Such Sweet Sorrow
The Penultimate episode of season 2. Discovery is evacuated, but that's just the start of the episode. The Enterprise looks cool, but more on that below. Then there is Xahea (or rather, Po). Not sure what to make of her, given I didn't get to see The Runaway. Sarek and Amanda seem to come out of nowhere too (more on that below, also). There is also the Time Crystal, with Burnham having premonitions from it. (Hence Po's device, more on that also. It also seems Reno also sees something yet to come.)
The Sphere Data continuing to protect itself, ensuring that Discovery's self-destruct doesn't work and that the Enterprise's torpedoes don't work, is quite believable, given it doesn't allow itself to be deleted. It doesn't stop Pike and Saru from initiating the self-destruct sequence, or the remote initiation from the Enterprise. The evacuation scene is interesting, but how would such corridors work if a both ships were under fire? Probably something Starfleet would phase out at some later point.
However, it is an impressive scene, and leads to the scenes aboard the Enterprise. Maybe a little bit too much red in the corridors, but otherwise the turbolift and the bridge look rather good. A rather effective update. Discovery can't be destroyed. The solution, send Discovery into the future using the time crystal. Hence, going to Xahea to enlist Po's help in getting it charged. Po seems rather eccentric, but she certainly gets on well with Tilly. Pike's comment about her after he learns that she kept the Dilithium recrystalisation technology to herself was quite apt.
The Sarek and Amanda scenes could stand to have been written better. They were somewhere (Vulcan?) and Sarek senses something, and he and Amanda then leave to go to Xahea, where Discovery would end up. Then they leave before Enterprise gets there (given that Discovery had Spore-jumped there.) A better way to write them in would have been to have Sarek been negotiating with Po about something (Xahea beginning the process of accession to Federation membership, maybe) and then Discovery arrives.
That would have been a better story, and wouldn't impact the flow of the episode too much. (And maybe would have worldbuilt Xahea better. How much power Po has as Queen, for example.) In any case the premonitions obviously relate to the next episode. How the situation will be resolved is still up in the air. Overall it is a good episode, but the Sarek and Amanda portions drag it down a bit. 7.6/10.
The Penultimate episode of season 2. Discovery is evacuated, but that's just the start of the episode. The Enterprise looks cool, but more on that below. Then there is Xahea (or rather, Po). Not sure what to make of her, given I didn't get to see The Runaway. Sarek and Amanda seem to come out of nowhere too (more on that below, also). There is also the Time Crystal, with Burnham having premonitions from it. (Hence Po's device, more on that also. It also seems Reno also sees something yet to come.)
The Sphere Data continuing to protect itself, ensuring that Discovery's self-destruct doesn't work and that the Enterprise's torpedoes don't work, is quite believable, given it doesn't allow itself to be deleted. It doesn't stop Pike and Saru from initiating the self-destruct sequence, or the remote initiation from the Enterprise. The evacuation scene is interesting, but how would such corridors work if a both ships were under fire? Probably something Starfleet would phase out at some later point.
However, it is an impressive scene, and leads to the scenes aboard the Enterprise. Maybe a little bit too much red in the corridors, but otherwise the turbolift and the bridge look rather good. A rather effective update. Discovery can't be destroyed. The solution, send Discovery into the future using the time crystal. Hence, going to Xahea to enlist Po's help in getting it charged. Po seems rather eccentric, but she certainly gets on well with Tilly. Pike's comment about her after he learns that she kept the Dilithium recrystalisation technology to herself was quite apt.
The Sarek and Amanda scenes could stand to have been written better. They were somewhere (Vulcan?) and Sarek senses something, and he and Amanda then leave to go to Xahea, where Discovery would end up. Then they leave before Enterprise gets there (given that Discovery had Spore-jumped there.) A better way to write them in would have been to have Sarek been negotiating with Po about something (Xahea beginning the process of accession to Federation membership, maybe) and then Discovery arrives.
That would have been a better story, and wouldn't impact the flow of the episode too much. (And maybe would have worldbuilt Xahea better. How much power Po has as Queen, for example.) In any case the premonitions obviously relate to the next episode. How the situation will be resolved is still up in the air. Overall it is a good episode, but the Sarek and Amanda portions drag it down a bit. 7.6/10.
I think this place is more like The Breakfast Club. I won't get into who's who but just imagine some of us in that movie.
Because writers wrote themselves into a corner and it's the only way out :/Can someone riddle me this: Why would the Red Angel suit that they are themselves building be also hardwired to Burnham‘s DNA?
Can someone riddle me this: Why would the Red Angel suit that they are themselves building be also hardwired to Burnham‘s DNA?
It looks like a lot of the controls are gesture/thought based, the entire suit calibrated around a particular person and their neural/DNA pattern.
Designing a new suit would have meant spending weeks slowly building a new one around whoever else they wanted to pilot it, and tune it to their biology.
Or just reproduce the one they had the scans of bit for bit and have Michaels 98% compatability be "good enough".
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Perhaps, I do wonder how they will collapse the cause and effect loop without a reset.
Moving forward in time is fine but it all goes pear shaped when someone changes the past and is then removed from the timeline as everything they did back then is undone as well.
Nice expression. Haven't heard it before, will start using it
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No, it's not as bad a corner as a TNG - "Chain of Command" where somehow Capotain Picard was the ONLY expert (in the entire Federation) on a certain kind of waves - so he was the ONLY operative they could send on a mission DEEP into Cardassian space to see if they were being used to deliver a metagentic weapon. (Oh, and further...somehow it was all a ploy by the Cardassians because they needed Picard's strategic knowledge for an invasion of the planet Minos Korva.)
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That's writing yourself into a corner.
That it was a ploy makes it to to make sense. The Cardassians were combing Picard's whole service history to create such a hook. (And it was not even fool proof, it was said that there were other people with the same knowledge, though they had retired.)No, it's not as bad a corner as a TNG - "Chain of Command" where somehow Capotain Picard was the ONLY expert (in the entire Federation) on a certain kind of waves - so he was the ONLY operative they could send on a mission DEEP into Cardassian space to see if they were being used to deliver a metagentic weapon. (Oh, and further...somehow it was all a ploy by the Cardassians because they needed Picard's strategic knowledge for an invasion of the planet Minos Korva.)
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That's writing yourself into a corner.
I will not say anything bad about an episode that gave us one of the greatest Star Trek memes everNo, it's not as bad a corner as a TNG - "Chain of Command" where somehow Capotain Picard was the ONLY expert (in the entire Federation) on a certain kind of waves - so he was the ONLY operative they could send on a mission DEEP into Cardassian space to see if they were being used to deliver a metagentic weapon. (Oh, and further...somehow it was all a ploy by the Cardassians because they needed Picard's strategic knowledge for an invasion of the planet Minos Korva.)
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That's writing yourself into a corner.
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Its old school UK slang, another one would be when everything goes "tits up" or you see someone go "arse over tit".Nice expression. Haven't heard it before, will start using it
Shit hits the fan is another one but that is much more recent.
We already know that Burnham will have a time suit. Its reasonable to suggest Sarek knew where she would be because he connected over Katra with future Burnham on one of her trips back in time to learn where she'd and the discovery would be so that he and Amanda would be there to say good bye as future Burnham remembers..
See the TOS episode: Mission, no sorry, Assignment Earth for your answer.
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Those expressions are just pants (or at least refer to things heading in that general direction).
Do you mean "Assignment: Earth"?
