Spoilers A big hint about the finale/season 3 has dropped...

[SolarisOne]

Considering that the normal 'mortal level' tech in Trek already violates currently known laws of physics (for example transporters specifically have 'Heisenberg Compensators' for breaking Uncertainty Principle) I really don't think that this applies.

The transporter is the only main one which is absolutely impossible as written. Warp drive is halfway* plausible--not via "subspace", mind you. *(Halfway, in that sublight warp drive is actually plausible. FTL warp drive is ... extremely problematic, if not impossible--reality has built-in causality protection, it seems.)

Speaking of, here's a fun fact: If one could harness the exotic matter required for an IRL warp drive, then one automatically has the starting points of both womrhole creation/stabilization and bigger-on-the-inside spaces all in one neat package, because exotic matter is required for all of them. Takeaway: you could literally see an advanced civilization building a non time-travelling mockup of Peter Capaldi's TARDIS which flies through wormholes and then jumps to STL warp after exiting.

 

[urbandefault]

Mount and Peck

This made me laugh.

 

[Krog]

It would be truly terrible if they reset the timeline or something like that just because. If they wanted to have a show in the future, why just not starting there? That way, the spore drive and everything else would have made so much more sense. Writing and show running have truly been poor so far - a shame

 

[Alan Roi]

It would be truly terrible if they reset the timeline or something like that just because. If they wanted to have a show in the future, why just not starting there? That way, the spore drive and everything else would have made so much more sense. Writing and show running have truly been poor so far - a shame

I disagree. I think they've told a good story so far. And they don't need to change the timeline at all.

 

[Alan Roi]

This is what confuses me. When I watch the Abrams films, I see Kirk, Spock and company as the same characters, just thrust into different circumstance. To me, even if it is an alternate timeline with different circumstance, Mount and Peck are still Pike and Spock.

When I watch the Abrams films I see characters and plots from earlier series movies jammed together despite very different circomstances which would alter them significantly but are played out in improbably fashion because somehow the guiding hand of "destiny" says they should be.

 

[BillJ]

When I watch the Abrams films I see characters and plots from earlier series movies jammed together despite very different circomstances which would alter them significantly but are played out in improbably fashion because somehow the guiding hand of "destiny" says they should be.

You mean like the guiding hand of destiny that puts the Enterprise crew in the same exact place in "Mirror, Mirror" or the alternate timeline where there's a Klingon war raging for 20 years yet the entire D crew minus Worf ends up together or where most of the DS9 gang end up in the same place or the Mirror NX-01 crew being exactly the same as its Prime counterpart? Or the Enterprise-D crew remaining mostly the same through 237,000 different timelines in "Parallels"? I'm sure there are more examples...

It is entertainment.

 

[Alan Roi]

You mean like the guiding hand of destiny that puts the Enterprise crew in the same exact place in "Mirror, Mirror" or the alternate timeline where there's a Klingon war raging for 20 years yet the entire D crew minus Worf ends up together or where most of the DS9 gang end up in the same place or the Mirror NX-01 crew being exactly the same as its Prime counterpart? Or the Enterprise-D crew remaining mostly the same through 237,000 different timelines in "Parallels"? I'm sure there are more examples...

It is entertainment.

It is funny how people are so accepting about the stuff you mentioned that suggest the fantastical hand of destiny in Star Trek, and yet time crystals affecting ones destiny: nope, Nope, NOPE!

 

[BillJ]

It is funny how people are so accepting about the stuff you mentioned that suggest the fantastical hand of destiny in Star Trek, and yet time crystals affecting ones destiny: nope, nope nope!

Yep. People are funny. Being different and having differing levels of tolerance for various storytelling devices.

What is the world coming to?!

 

[fireproof78]

It is funny how people are so accepting about the stuff you mentioned that suggest the fantastical hand of destiny in Star Trek, and yet time crystals affecting ones destiny: nope, nope nope!

Well, that's different...please don't ask me how

Actually, I think I have figured it out. It's all in presentation. If time crystals were done in any other way it would be accepted. Because it is presented as this new thing prior to TOS it becomes offensive.

Yep. People are funny. Being different and having differing levels of tolerance for various storytelling devices.

What is the world coming to?!

Yes, it usually doesn't make sense though

IDIC and all that jazz.

 

[BillJ]

Yes, it usually doesn't make sense though

Much of the time, life doesn't make sense. Much of the time, humanity doesn't make sense. Yet we move along.

 

[fireproof78]

Much of the time, life doesn't make sense. Much of the time, humanity doesn't make sense. Yet we move along.

You might...I make my living trying to make sense of humanity.

 

[Ovation]

You might...I make my living trying to make sense of humanity.

'Sup, Sisyphus.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Whatever they do, there's still the Picard Series. I assume they want all the 40-somethings who'll check out the series, but don't like Disco, to think Picard is the same character they used to watch.

As sixty year old (still not used to that) can I watch too?

 

[Lord Garth]

As sixty year old (still not used to that) can I watch too?

I need to get confirmation.

(turns around)

Yeah, we've got Nerys Myk here. Serial # 123456789Ten, requesting clearance to watch...

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay, great.

(turns back around)

Yeah, sure. Why not?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Good, I'd hate to have to whip out my fake ID.

 

[fireproof78]

'Sup, Sisyphus.

 

[DaveyNY]

Good, I'd hate to have to whip out my fake ID.

Please, just make sure it's only your wallet you're whipping out!

I already have intimate knowledge about what a sixty year old dingle looks like.


(and mines not "fake")

 

[Longinus]

It is funny how people are so accepting about the stuff you mentioned that suggest the fantastical hand of destiny in Star Trek, and yet time crystals affecting ones destiny: nope, Nope, NOPE!

Coincidence and destiny are really not the same thing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Coincidence and destiny are really not the same thing.

What about codestinence?

 

[eschaton]

So, after the last episode, I am modifying my original idea that we're heading into a TL reset, but only Discovery's main cast will remember. I think that - presuming that Pike is getting a spinoff - that he will remember what happened, along with Spock. It would make for a much more interesting spinoff show than going tabula rasa with them, erasing all of the development from this season.

My new prediction for the final episode is that Enterprise as a whole is either going to jump backwards in time to "fix" things or that Pike/ and Spock will somehow be protected via plot armor. But when they return to the 23rd century, they'll discover that Michael and the rest of the Discovery crew have doppelgangers already running around (though the Enterprise crew does not). The Enterprise continues on its way, with some of the characters taking the secret of the modified timeline with them. But the Discovery crew, not having anywhere else to go, decide to follow their ship into the future.