I would probably lock myself in the holodeck and never leave. It may not be real but it'd be real enough for me.
What would you use the holodeck for?
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I asked you a question first, let me reiterate it:
So?
IOW, what's your point?
As for my point, it's that I find it odd to be shocked by something that's probably as old as the first mammals, IE nonreproductive sex.
I would use the holodeck for absolutely everything. When I read a book, I’d do it at the pond beneath the willow on Tampit Lane, in 1890. When I cook, I’d cook in an enormous parlour stuffed full of every imaginable food. Roast Dodo, why not, or maybe pteranodon in orange sauce. When I bathed, I’d do it in a Roman bath with lots of naked women. When I learned, anything, I’d learn from the best, or at least a decent approximation of them.
I can’t boil an egg without checking the forums while I do it, the holodeck would soon become intertwined with my existence.
I can’t boil an egg without checking the forums while I do it, the holodeck would soon become intertwined with my existence.
I know people who are that way with their smartphone. They can't do anything without it.
Or they'd disappear out of each other's view, and begin experiencing their own segment of the program. IIRC, that's kind of what happened in Emergence, when Data splits off from Troi & Worf, who follow the Gangster, leaving Data to fend off the taxi. They went down whole streets and around corners away from him, certainly a larger area than the holodeck room is, I'd think.
Back on Topic... sort of... Isn't there anyone who'd be more interested in using the holodeck for learning shit? You could literally teach yourself how to do surgery, on human subjects, without jeopardizing people, become a pilot, an architect, engineer. It's no wonder Trek's universe is filled with people so much more skilled than us. They have an inexhaustible source of practical study. I'd think the academy ought to be like 80% holodeck training
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You'd be learning how to become a pilot and then the holodeck safeguards would fail...
In truth the holodeck doesn't need to be real, it could just be inputs in our brain based on the orders we give our muscles... basically, it would be like a dream, except that it would seem real and we would be fully conscious. There's no need for paradoxes like in Take Me Out To The Holosuite where the baseball stadium is much bigger than the holodeck. How do you solve people moving away from each other in each direction and then throwing things at each other? When you stop to think about it. It just doesn't work, unless people brains are manipulated into seeing things that are not real. In that case, why do you even need a holodeck?
If holodecks existed for real, they'd be very different from what is shown in ST. The so-called forcefield, for example, couldn't be electromagnetic in nature as prolonged exposure to it demonstrably causes cancers. In fact, it would take longer to solve all the cases of diseases caused by the holodecks than to invent the holodecks in the first place.
They would just have a "_______ compensator" which solves that issue with some inexplicable technobabble.
Kor
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The holodeck wouldn't use ultraviolet or higher frequency EM radiation to begin with. Anything with longer wavelength (visible light on down to extremely long wavelength radio) can't cause cancer, no matter how intense the source, because the individual photons don't have enough energy to break the chemical bonds in DNA.
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You're wrong, it's not the photons that cause cancer, it's the induced currents, plus the Joule effect caused by those currents moving through cells, cause the cells to heat up and either die (internal burns) or degrade and become cancerous. It has nothing to do with photons. basically, it's like having a microwave oven inside of your body.
I'm having a very Paul Stamets moment here. Imagine him speaking now.
That's not only wrong, it's completely wrong. All you're going to get from that is being cooked--the cells are going to die entirely. If a cell is dead, it can't grow. If it can't grow, it can't become malignant. If it can't become malignant, it can't lead to cancer.
You don't understand. Studies have shown that if the Joule effect is not enough to cook or kill the cell, it can still damage it by impeding its functions. Some of those cells sometimes become cancerous. It only takes ONE malignant cell to start cancer btw. There are thousands of billions of them in our bodies. So even an event that has very little chance to happen in a single cell, say one in a hundred billion, it will become almost a certainty at the scale of our body.
As my name indicates I am a fan of the series, however, I am also aware that Paul Stamets is NOT REAL!!
BTW: There's at least one thing about which Stamets is dead wrong and that's the validity of spore drive, let alone its superiority to regular warp drive. There must be something fundamentally wrong about spore drive otherwise Picard, Sisko, Janeway et al; would all use it. At some point in the future of Disco, the federation must have realized that spore drive is impractical, maybe it causes large scale irreversible damage, maybe the people who use it die young...
Ironically, fields can be healthy--as Flint--or the folks behind this study
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/L...ields_may_have_protective_properties_999.html
I'd use the holodeck to watch old game shows, and have little spacecraft attack me like godzilla...
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/L...ields_may_have_protective_properties_999.html
I'd use the holodeck to watch old game shows, and have little spacecraft attack me like godzilla...
I would use the holodeck for training, exercise, sports, and for testing suggestions and plans. Not for hound-dog activities.
Perhaps there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it's banned for another reason (such as the Feds not using cloaking technology).
Well, if they ban everything that works then it's no wonder that they often end up in such a mess.
