It was a deleted scene. I wish they hadn't cut it.
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It was a deleted scene. I wish they hadn't cut it.
Do you know which episode? It might be on the Blu-ray I picked up.
It is. "Will You Take My Hand?" It's in the Deleted Scenes. The only place for it to fit is after The Klingon War ends. But after The War ends, we go into the ceremony, then they're on their way to Vulcan, then the Enterprise shows up. It's all positive, uplifting, then there's the excitement of the Enterprise. Having that Section 31 Scene in the middle of one of those scenes would've disrupted the whole rhythm.
What I think they should've done was end the episode the way they did, have the credits, and then show that scene. Kind of like they do at the end of some movies, to reward the audience who actually sat through the credits.
It was released as an "exclusive bonus scene" on the official Star Trek YouTube channel, where it can still be found:
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It turns out the Borg *are* Swedish (on Leland's mother's side) afterall.
Would explain their Ikea degree of design sensibility.
Obviously the Speed of Plot is a universal law, but one should keep some consistency, and they usually do. However the Red Angle suit has replaced the Genesis device as the most powerful device shown as being in the Federations arsenal, rivals the Annorax as one of the most powerful devices shown in Star Trek.
Just my 2 cents of course.
More powerful than the Guardian of Forever or the slingshot manuever? More powerful than the transporter pattern memory?
As I said last year with the Spore Drive, ridiculous tech doesn't hold itself in memory as much if it's "one and done." It ceases being more plot device and transforms into just plot.
When it comes to magic-tech in Trek or other sci fi, I think treating it as a Mcguffin is best. Just establish it exists and move on.
I'll give you the Guardian of Forever, with the caveat that it has a mind if it's own. It will not necessarily do what you want it to do.
The slingshot lets you travel in time you would still have to cross space on your own, plus there are risks associated with it. The Transporter is a one way trip.
The slingshot lets you travel in time you would still have to cross space on your own, plus there are risks associated with it. The Transporter is a one way trip.
The GOF sends you where you want to go. You just need to know when and where.
What are the risks with the Slingshot? Worked fine in A:E and TVH.
The transport can apparently cure any ills by resetting you to the last "save". Pretty powerful stuff.
The done it one McGuffin is great for episodic TV and the casual veiwer. But fanboys have long memories
Fanboy: I know what you did last season!
Trek Character: You can't prove anything!
Fanboy: Oh, can't I? I'll tell everyone!
Trek Character: You wouldn't...
Fanboy: Not unless you give me what I want, trekfriend!
Trek Character: This is blackmail.
I LOVE TILLY TO BITS.
But I wish the writers would lay off on the quirky scenes when she says something funny because there is just much more for her to do and as a character I'd like to see her not be the comedy relief but grow more.
But I wish the writers would lay off on the quirky scenes when she says something funny because there is just much more for her to do and as a character I'd like to see her not be the comedy relief but grow more.
Yeah, the transporter cured death. Where's the complains about that?
I don't have any problems with her being awkward-adorkable per se. I've found the main issue is that she's been so out of focus recently that she literally has nothing else to do but appear in a single scene or at most two scenes built along the lines of 'Tilly says something funny', as if to signal she's still alive, whenever she's not simply reading something off a computer display. I didn't complain about her before because, well, I'm an unapologetic Tilly fan and I've found most of her scenes legitimately cute or funny, but the favorite law of physics scene in Perpetual Infinity was jarring even to me.
Now that I think of it, it's almost as if she's been set aside because she's been the usual go-to character for Burnham when she wanted personal advice; now that role has been taken over by Spock, and suddenly, with nothing spore-drive-related for her (and Stamets, for that matter) to do, she's being pushed back into Mandatory Line Mayweather territory.
I remember earlier in the season a lot of people complained she was "too much" this season and stuck out like a sore thumb. I wonder if when there was a showrunner change Kurtzman felt this too, and dialed her way back.
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