Fans? Maybe they could. Most viewers didn't seem to care.
Spoilers Do you think the original main arc was scrapped once Berg/Harberts left?
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DS9 is to Voyager as a "Cherry" Fruit Loop is to "Grape."
Defiance wasn't bad at all (Datak Tarr should have been the lead though!) but I'm shocked it had much higher ratings than The Expanse.
Salamanders, man. Don't you know that we have a totally pre-determined evolutionary plan in our genes (coincidence? I think not!) that has nothing to do with adapting to circumstances but everything to do with us eventually turning into salamanders? Sa.La.Man.Ders. With an emphasis on the Ders.
I still don't understand why they just left Janeway and Paris's larva back on that planet. Shouldn't they have captured them and "devolved" them back into humans too?
There's a problem with this theory as the writing staff has recently been photographed visiting Space X and Alan McElroy was with them, meaning he is on the writing staff in season 3. So if he was hired just because of his Christian views for a more faith-leaning version of season 2, why keep him for season 3?
I personally do think the original plan for the season changed once Berg and Harberts were let go. I think they were going to make it more religious and spiritual whereas Kurtzman dialed it all back and made it about science instead. If so, I think Kurtzman made the right decision. We can argue all day whether a god being exists (and which one of the millions of different interpretations is correct) but god does not exist in the Star Trek universe. And to make a human Star Trek character super religious or to make the Red Angel something supernatural is a step too far IMO (if that's what the original plan was). Pike knowing about religion and studying religion is fine to me. It doesn't mean he is religious.
But that was before Spock killed the God in the Final Frontier.
To the primary topic, There have been changes, and I susupect some stuff was changed the second they were booted out. But it is the same writers the whole season, so i doubt that any major changes were made, just Alex being the new shepard.
Now the sub topic of Faith vs Science.
There's always a poll somewhere saying that the world is getting less religious, but that poll is skewed in a way.. it asks if they belive in a particular religion, not if they belive in a god, without any particular religious organization. Basically, they belive there is a god, or goddess, or spirit rock.. but not specificly a christian or other. That particular belif is on the rise.
And the premise that religion has to go to have an advanced sociity is crap, you can have both.
I like what JMS did with Babylon 5, He is an Advout Athiest.. but religion is through out B5. even having priests and missionaries in some episodes. Even making up a new religion of Foundationalist.
Star Trek is about Infinite diversity in Infaninte combinations.. Or basically, were all different, and we accept you and celebrate that everybody is different.. and saying "religion has no place in star trek" is doing a great diservice to diversity.
Now the sub topic of Faith vs Science.
There's always a poll somewhere saying that the world is getting less religious, but that poll is skewed in a way.. it asks if they belive in a particular religion, not if they belive in a god, without any particular religious organization. Basically, they belive there is a god, or goddess, or spirit rock.. but not specificly a christian or other. That particular belif is on the rise.
And the premise that religion has to go to have an advanced sociity is crap, you can have both.
I like what JMS did with Babylon 5, He is an Advout Athiest.. but religion is through out B5. even having priests and missionaries in some episodes. Even making up a new religion of Foundationalist.
Star Trek is about Infinite diversity in Infaninte combinations.. Or basically, were all different, and we accept you and celebrate that everybody is different.. and saying "religion has no place in star trek" is doing a great diservice to diversity.
Crackfic fuel!
Can of salamanders, you mean? The whole episode was painful to watch, to me.
All I know about is the salamanders. I'm not even sure I've watched the episode. I gave up on VOY after the third season only dropping in occasionally.
To me, the salamanders were not even a problem. I always felt the issue was the idea that it would be possible to to skip the infinite number of exponentially faster stages of fractions of warp factors that there must be between warp 9.999... and warp 10 at all. It was like they'd decided that you can go straight from having five hundred trillion trillion things straight to an infinite number of things.
But this is most definitely off topic. Sorry.
Basically, the VOY crew had too much free time on their hands while lost in the Delta, and broke warp 10 in a shuttle they threw together. And then salamanders.
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