Captain Marvel (2019)

[Agony_Boothb]

Just got back from seeing it with a friend and we both loved it. Brie Larson did a great job and I loved the 90's buddy cop movie vibe the film had. I loved the twist on the Skrulls, young Nick fury, Goose the Cat and the highlight of the movie for me was 'I don't have anything to prove to you'.

The only thing I didn't like was Jude Law, who really seemed to be phoning it in.

Bring on Endgame already!

 

[Tosk]

How can something be the best when they aren't even the actual thing?

 

[Teelie]

I was going to say, Goose is a Fleurkin, he's not a cat. At least I have never seen any of my cats

Spoiler

open it's mouth and flying tentacles come out to eat everything in sight.

Though pretty much everything else was true about Goose as a cat. Especially the scratching and

Spoiler

spitting up tesseracts hairballs.

Unspoiled the spoils.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Bear in mind guys, this isn’t the spoiler/review thread.

 

[Jayson1]

I haven't seen the movie yet but could ya tell me in a non-spoiler way how well Agent Coulson is used in the movie? Does his CGI de-aging work as well as it seems Fury in the trailers?


Jason

 

[Teelie]

His role isn't a large one but it is important in key places throughout the movie and the CG does work for him.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I haven't seen the movie yet but could ya tell me in a non-spoiler way how well Agent Coulson is used in the movie? Does his CGI de-aging work as well as it seems Fury in the trailers?


Jason

Looked less authentic to my eyes but it probably helps that SLJ has aged so well in real life.

 

[suarezguy]

Enterprise not putting Star Trek in the title isn't groundbreaking. All that's accomplishing is telling the entire world that you're scared to admit that it's a Star Trek show.

They were trying to make it hip and they failed worse than Poochie.

Interesting that Enterprise and Smallville started at the same time on the two netlets and I think they were basically similarly received and yet Smallville lasted over twice as long.

 

[JD]

3.) Enterprise not putting Star Trek in the title isn't groundbreaking. All that's accomplishing is telling the entire world that you're scared to admit that it's a Star Trek show.

This one bugged from the moment the show was announced, it wasn't like it was a secret it was a Star Trek series, so I didn't understand why they didn't just call it Star Trek. Even if someone went into it not realizing it was Star Trek, they'd probably figure it out once Klingons, and Vulcans started showing up.

 

[gblews]

I'm not sure what else to add. I just didn't see the racism of humanity really their in the early seasons. Except with the Vulcans. I do think that would maybe count but I was thinking more of human on human bigotry.

What are you talking about? The discussion was a debate about Ent being the first Trek show to show mass xenophobia and bigotry by humans on earth.

The reason you didn't notice it in the first two seasons of Ent was because the Xindi attack disn't occur until the last episode of season 2. That attack is what triggered the wave of hatred of aliens on earth.

Look, go watch ALL of seasons 3 and 4 of Ent and if you want to come back and finish the discussion I would be willing.

 

[gblews]

1.) First season of TNG had an entire episode deal with drug addiction.

Ent had a main character become addicted -- a Vulcan. TNG never came close to that.

2.)DS9 not only had conflict between the crew on a regular basis, but routinly had them question that perfect Utopia paradise that Roddenberry created . Watch episodes The Maquis, Seige of AR-166 or The Jem-Hadar.

Ent didn't just have characters talk about bigotry on earth, they showed it. But, you're right, DS9 did have crew conflict. I think I was responding to something Jayson wrote.

3.) Enterprise not putting Star Trek in the title isn't groundbreaking. All that's accomplishing is telling the entire world that you're scared to admit that it's a Star Trek show.

Despite what you may think of the decision to not use ST in the title, it had never before been done in any of the previous spinoffs, thus it was "groundbreaking".

Ent was also the first of the spinoffs to use a custom made opening theme and montage specifically customized for a particular episode.

Like it or not, Ent was the most innovative of all of the spinoffs in front of the camera and behind.

 

[Jayson1]

What are you talking about? The discussion was a debate about Ent being the first Trek show to show mass xenophobia and bigotry by humans on earth.

The reason you didn't notice it in the first two seasons of Ent was because the Xindi attack disn't occur until the last episode of season 2. That attack is what triggered the wave of hatred of aliens on earth.

Look, go watch ALL of seasons 3 and 4 of Ent and if you want to come back and finish the discussion I would be willing.

The "wave" of bigotry though seemed to be in the season opener 4 when Phlox is attacked and then you don't see it really pop up again until the last few episodes at the end of the season. I guess if you want to count Trip wanting revenge in season 3 for his sister. I suppose that played out more than most but O'Brien being racist to Carddisians was a thing played up on "TNG" and to greater extent "DS9." I mean I am not disagreeing that this stuff wasn't their. Only it just didn't feel so ant-classic Trek to a point where it didn't feel like they were doing things that Trek never dared to tackle before. It felt like Berman Trek with a extra layer.

Jason

 

[theenglish]

Just saw it this evening with my family and we all loved it. A non-spoiler-y thing that I think fits here for people waiting to see the movie. Brie Larson does a great job--and the criticisms of her acting in this film seem to me to have come from people who did not see the movie. Although the movie has a some funny moments, they don't threaten to overwhelm the movie like the humor in some other Marvel movies. Captain Marvel is awesome and I can't wait for Endgame now.

 

[Anwar]

Brie Larson does a great job--and the criticisms of her acting in this film seem to me to have come from people who did not see the movie.

They're basing that purely on the first trailer that came out, in fact that trailer really did a poor job advertising the movie. I get that they were likely going for misdirection but still...

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

They're basing that purely on the first trailer that came out, in fact that trailer really did a poor job advertising the movie. I get that they were likely going for misdirection but still...

Well that's a lie.

Me and a friend saw it (he collects her comics and was pumped for the movie) and thought she wasn't that great, in fact gave some good examples of how her line reading was "off" in some scenes (like correcting Fury by adding "heroes" when he calls them warriors, but not emphasizing the correction but the warrior part still, for one of many examples he noticed that he felt were strange acting choices), that really seemed to jar him. It may be a bit nitpicky, but it's what he felt.

We still overall enjoyed it, though. I thought she was fine and quite fun in the roll.

 

[Teelie]

That was rather nitpicky. But everyone has their tics.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Carol from the comics is a human being.

Carol from the movies has been brain washed into believing that she is Kree.

They can't be the same person, or react to stimulus similarly because they are not even from the same planet.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Brie Larson does a great job--and the criticisms of her acting in this film seem to me to have come from people who did not see the movie.

As noted in my review, I did not understand the criticism of Larson's performance; she was sort of sullen, but lost (only playing around while training) and once on earth, that personality was to be expected since she was effectively mind wiped by the Kree, but felt another life "shadowed" the one lived as an alien soldier.

She could not come off as confident or lively with her identity from the start, or it essentially re-writes the purpose of the character. Danvers easing into her past (real) life and bonding with Fury had to be the result of a gradual process. So, in regards to the criticism of Larson's performance, to each his own, but I thought she handled the journey to becoming the title character (as a reclaimed personality) in the right way, at the right pace.

 

[suarezguy]

This one bugged from the moment the show was announced, it wasn't like it was a secret it was a Star Trek series, so I didn't understand why they didn't just call it Star Trek.

I thought that title, without (as the sequel shows had had) the franchise title, was a clever way of conveying and saying without saying that it was a prequel set before the other series.

 

[Noname Given]

Like it or not, Ent was the most innovative of all of the spinoffs in front of the camera and behind.

I like ENT but I wouldn't say that as DS9 did some very innovative things (for a Star Trek series) prior to ENT. Granted it was because it was the 'Red Headed Stepchild' of the TGrek franchise during ST: V's UPN/CW run, but given ENT's return to the "Starship exploring the Universe' premise of every show except DS9 - overall I'd still sat DS9 was more innovative first even though I myself do like ENT more than DS9 myself.