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Red Angel Theories- Post Here

OK did anyone notice this? Found this picture online and look what's floating around the Section 31 base, apple cores and who do we know that loves to eat apples and talks tough?

I wonder if she's behind a lot of stuff involving Control to a degree.

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Last night was incredible. The antenna on my tin foil beanie was getting the best reception EVER!

The Red Angel is an alternate universe Commander Uhura who, it turns out, is Michael Burnham's real mother.

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Um... I must confess: I have no idea who eats apples (haven’t noticed that instance) buuuut is it a certain character from the mirror universe who now works for Section 31?
 
Last night was incredible. The antenna on my tin foil beanie was getting the best reception EVER!

The Red Angel is an alternate universe Commander Uhura who, it turns out, is Michael Burnham's real mother.

man-tin-foil-hat-e1477413817546.jpg

That would explain the red angel's wings, they are actually fans... FOR FAN DANCING

Commander Uhura Fan dancing through time

Helloooooo booooys
 
That weird deadline article has me thinking that Number One might be the Red Angel. We're seeing her at her latest canonical appearance and she must have a bigger role in the season upcoming or else they wouldn't have included her.
 
I feel like we're intentionally being thrown off the trail to make room for bigger surprises later on. Basic questions remain:
Why would the DSC crew be going back in time just a matter of days/weeks/months to interact with themselves in a way that accomplishes NOTHING to stop Control?

Again, Burnham is in her regular uniform when she sits down in the big chair in the preview - not the RA suit. So it's not a given that that's her highly anticipated moment that everyone's predicting. But surely there's a more effective way to tackle a deadly A.I. than making brief appearances around the galaxy, not going to any effort at all to point to the actual threat IF that's Control.

Both assumptions about DSC and Control might be incorrect. I know that this idea will be challenged, and I just ask that the question be tackled first: Why would the DSC crew be going back in time just a matter of days/weeks/months to interact with themselves in a way that accomplishes NOTHING to stop Control?

I'm not understanding the bolded. When does the crew go back in time?

If you're talking about the theory of Michael being the RA, it's easily explained. The suit the RA is wearing is from the future, advanced tech that was developed perhaps 500 or 1000 years in the future. If Michael is being 'beamed' into the future via project Daedalus, she can find and wear the suit then. As to why she jumps back to the specific times we've already seen? Because she already knows it has happened that way. It's that simple.

If she is told or comes to the realization that she has to be the RA, then she will have to make all of those jumps to ensure the timeline happens the way they remember it and is not interfered with by CONTROL. Assuming that Control is actively trying to influence the past (sending back that modified probe, taking over Airiam etc). For example, perhaps that beast was somehow sent after young Burnham.

I get that some people would prefer a more in depth specific reason for each particular jump or interference by the RA, but a closed temporal causality loop tends to hand-wave that. Why choose Spock? Because he's her brother, and she already knows he was visited as a child and helped to get her rescued before she was killed.

Now, the big question you have is still not solved, however, which is HOW does any of this stop CONTROL and its plan? That part is still yet to be seen or deciphered. There are missing pieces, still.

But that is why I think the idea of Discovery being hidden and abandoned deliberately for a millennia may factor into this somehow. (if the Calypso Short Trek has any bearing at all on the plot, which it might not) There are rumors of an evacuation of Discovery in one of the later eps. That's why I'm still keeping this as a possibility. It would also give the Enterprise and Number One a reason to show up, to take the crew on board.
 
So, as I was having breakfast today, I was wondering about the Red Angel and the possible connections to Burnham and Calypso, given the whole future angle with Control, and eventually, after an obviously unnecessary amount of overthinking, I came up with a really convoluted theory that probably only makes sense to me, and most importantly, would probably fall apart completely at the slightest prodding.

I asked myself the question: what if the Discovery wasn't simply left derelict for a thousand years but was actually thrown into the future? I keep hearing about the theory/prediction that Pike may or may not order to abandon the ship in an upcoming episode. If he does, might this happen in connection to a temporal anomaly displacing it into the future? What if somebody is stranded on the ship as it's abandoned, and the Red Angel sightings are their attempts to come back to our time, by utilizing some kind of future tech, technical knowledge from the Sphere's data, or maybe whatever Project Daedalus is, to send messages into the past, guiding Discovery on a path that would allow them to come back to our time, perhaps armed with a sentient AI powerful enough to stop an awakened Control?

Possible clues that could fit in my opinion:
  • If Burnham is crucial to the whole scenario in any way, it gives the Red Angel a reason to warn Kid!Spock about her being in danger.
  • The first red burst led Discovery to a dark matter asteroid, which Tilly theorized could be utilized to use the spore drive without a navigator. As the spore drive has already been shown to have time travel capabilities, the dark matter might be needed for the crew member stranded in the future to bring the ship back in time without Stamets.
  • The route taken by Spock's shuttle as he escapes from Starbase 5 is not random. It's specifically designed to place the pursuing Discovery into the path of the Sphere, with hundreds of thousands of years worth of historical data, including, as Tilly mentioned, thousands of years worth of AI technical documentation, which, combined with Discovery's computer and Airiam's memories, might just be enough to create Zora. Our culprit probably needs Discovery to reach sentience for whatever reason... perhaps to be able to fight Control on equal terms?

Clues that even I admit don't quite fit:
  • I don't have any explanation for Spock taking a specific escape route after leaving Starbase 5. How would the Red Angel convince him?
  • The bursts leading Discovery to Terralysium and Kaminar don't quite make sense in this theoretical framework - we'd have to determine what happened during these incidents that would be useful to someone stranded in the future on Discovery.
  • Neither does the displacement of 21th century civilians to Terralysium make sense. It only makes sense if something happened at Terralysium that would absolutely require Discovery to go there.
Or, an alternate question: Is Discovery actually left adrift for a thousand years, over which its computer achieves sentience as Zora, who is now trying to ensure her own creation via the Red Angel?
 
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