Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x09 - "Project Daedalus"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Mar 14, 2019.

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  1. Jadeb

    Jadeb Commodore Commodore

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    It also felt like the sort of situation Trek crews normally find a way to solve. Instead, it was out the airlock with Airiam.
     
  2. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has already been covered, but how does a computer not already conscious "want" something? Are we assuming that s31 have programmed it to evolve and ended up with something they couldn't handle, like Lore?
     
  3. seigezunt

    seigezunt Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I just with they'd give the Logic Extremists a Vulcan name. It would go a long way towards it sounding more Trek-y to me.
     
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  4. Kor

    Kor Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    At least she didn't explode in the vacuum of space. That misconception persists for some reason.

    Kor
     
  5. Tomalak

    Tomalak Vice Admiral Admiral

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    "Fleet Captain Pike, I'm so sorry about your horrible radiation scarring. The good news is we can reconstruct your body using cybernetics"

    "Beep Beep"

    "No? Why not?"

    "..."

    "Oh. Sorry. Is it because you like sitting down?"

    "Beep Beep"

    "You hate RoboCop?"

    "Beep Beep"

    (Some time later)

    "It's because of that time your officer was taken over by Malware and tried to betray and murder you and your crew isn't it?"

    "Beep"

    "Ok, we'll stick with the chair. Incidentally, I've got some good news, your old ship is stopping by for a visit next week..."
     
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  6. Greg Cox

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    I largely enjoyed the ep, but the Nhan thing did bug me. I get that there were other emergencies going on, but the whole time Burnham was dealing with Airiam, and there was all urgent dialogue and back-and-forth about the airlock, part of me kept thinking "Um, remember Nhan, last seen gasping for breath a few moments ago? Maybe take a moment to check on her . . . ?"
     
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  7. seigezunt

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    also pondering the fact that you have a security chief who can be easily incapacitated by pulling the inhaler/retainer dingus off of her face.
     
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  8. WarpFactorZ

    WarpFactorZ Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Who of us talks to their family members the same way we speak to our co-workers? Besides, Spock has never spoken well with his family, with the possible exception of Amanda.
     
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  9. dahj

    dahj Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah that's my only gripe with the episode as well.

    It was even more puzzling since she was wearing an EV suit, so why wasn't the life support system in it calibrated to Barzan requirements so she could just pop the helmet back on? :shrug:
     
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  10. Tomalak

    Tomalak Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Incidentally, unless I've missed the dedicated thread, I'm glad no one is going crazy because Pike said "shit storm".

    A great improvement over last year's "Fuck yeah"-gate. Well done everyone.
     
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  12. rocketdave

    rocketdave Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Even worse were the couple occasions on Voyager in which we only learned about a crewmember's existence long after they'd been killed off, i.e., Lyndsay Ballard and Ensign Jetal.
     
  13. eschaton

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    All things considered, once they committed to Airiam in the airlock, I'm happy they actually spaced her. Typical Trek plotting involves putting the characters in a terrible dilemma - a no-win scenario - and then finds some cop out excuse to actually eliminate the dilemma entirely. It's better that the episode had some sort of real consequence, even if it was just killing a mauve shirt.
     
  14. Tomalak

    Tomalak Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yes, and the idea clearly has its roots in the xenophobic Vulcan terrorist group from TNG's Gambit. It's not too far away from some of the insular and repressive Vulcans seen in ENT either.
     
  15. Jayson1

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    You kind of answered your own question. Explosions are cool and humans exploding is double cool!



    Jason
     
  16. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    Yeah that was my thought watching it too - why not just activate the helmet?
     
  17. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Sooooo... Airiam is (was) Trek's version of Robocop?

    Enjoyable episode. Sad ending. Angry Young Spock is excellent.

    Its all about Michael? Yeeeeesh. She's the Angel.
     
  18. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    Yes, very much this - this is why I liked the ending, I was 99.8% sure they weren't going to go through with it, and they did.
     
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  19. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Admiral Admiral

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    Cornwell wasn't dealing with the real Vulcan Admiral though.
    Remember the real one had been dead for at least two weeks.
    Cornwell was dealing with the Control AI who led her to believe that Patar was an extremist.
     
  20. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    They needed a way to conveniently prolong her being disabled. Both her and Burnham together could likely have stopped Arian. In the heat of the moment, most viewers wouldn’t have thought as much about the helmet. A bit sloppily handled, if not for an otherwise excellent episode.