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superhuman blood + protomatter = red angels
I still wonder what happened between him and Kurtzman. Someone asked him on Trekmovie if Orci will come back to Trek, but Orci ominously said "You can't go home again."
That is the craziest, least plausible theory I've ever heard even for a Star Trek series. I love it. Give it a one-season commitment on CBS All Access and get Dwight Schulz on the phone.
I don't know if this has been postulated, but what if the Red Angel, and perhaps the probe, is a time traveller from the PAST? From an ancient, advanced civilization?
The Tkon? Iconians? The D'Arsay? Guardian of Forever builders? Sargon's people? Those forebearers from TNG's "The Chase"? The people who created that ocean planet in VOYAGER's "THIRTY DAYS"? A different one never mentioned?
The Tkon? Iconians? The D'Arsay? Guardian of Forever builders? Sargon's people? Those forebearers from TNG's "The Chase"? The people who created that ocean planet in VOYAGER's "THIRTY DAYS"? A different one never mentioned?
I do know tons of people have mentioned the red angels being Iconian already.
The Red Angel being Iconian is one of the top theories.
They'd be my guess! 
Nexus Echo Kirk or I’m boycotting all Trek...retroactively.
My first thought on seeing the "humanoid in spacesuit" was trapped-in-Interphase-space-Kirk from The Tholian Web.
I don't think the Red Angel is Zora, as seems to be the current prevailing theory.
Spock said the angel was human. Also, I think the science v. faith aspect is at play. Within current tropes, malevolent AI is treated as the unintended pinnacle achievement of scientific progress. It is the bad of science, yet we see S31 (and, by extension, the brass) take everything Control tells them on faith.
To counter that, the Red Angel should be someone who takes science on faith to do good. The conclusion here is that the Red Angel is really Michael who has been whizz-banged into the future.
On that note, I still think my previous theory of a thematic tie-in to the Archangels is relevant. Here is a statue of Archangel Michael slaying a dragon (Per Wiki):
Young Spock's hologram at the beginning of the season morphed into a dragon. And, while the Matrix-inspired future-bots are more Kraken then Leviathan, they're still very serpentine in nature.
Spock said the angel was human. Also, I think the science v. faith aspect is at play. Within current tropes, malevolent AI is treated as the unintended pinnacle achievement of scientific progress. It is the bad of science, yet we see S31 (and, by extension, the brass) take everything Control tells them on faith.
To counter that, the Red Angel should be someone who takes science on faith to do good. The conclusion here is that the Red Angel is really Michael who has been whizz-banged into the future.
On that note, I still think my previous theory of a thematic tie-in to the Archangels is relevant. Here is a statue of Archangel Michael slaying a dragon (Per Wiki):
Young Spock's hologram at the beginning of the season morphed into a dragon. And, while the Matrix-inspired future-bots are more Kraken then Leviathan, they're still very serpentine in nature.
I think CONTROL becomes Zora.I don't think the Red Angel is Zora, as seems to be the current prevailing theory.
Spock said the angel was human. Also, I think the science v. faith aspect is at play. Within current tropes, malevolent AI is treated as the unintended pinnacle achievement of scientific progress. It is the bad of science, yet we see S31 (and, by extension, the brass) take everything Control tells them on faith.
To counter that, the Red Angel should be someone who takes science on faith to do good. The conclusion here is that the Red Angel is really Michael who has been whizz-banged into the future.
On that note, I still think my previous theory of a thematic tie-in to the Archangels is relevant. Here is a statue of Archangel Michael slaying a dragon (Per Wiki):
Young Spock's hologram at the beginning of the season morphed into a dragon. And, while the Matrix-inspired future-bots are more Kraken then Leviathan, they're still very serpentine in nature.
Somehow Pike and Crew managed to trap the AI in the Discovery and send it 1000 years into the future.
Maybe they managed to get it out of Airiam and into Discovery's computer banks.
Maybe, but Zora seemed way too benevolent in Calypso. Of course, there's always the possibility it was a facade to trick Aldis.
But I think they're going to play Zora v. Control like The Machine/root v. Samaritan.
But I think they're going to play Zora v. Control like The Machine/root v. Samaritan.
But even if they render it neutered somehow, the only reason they'd have to trap it, as you say, is if they couldn't destroy the bad code that made it malevolent in the first place. And all that time lapsed may as well be an eternity for that bad code to resurface and replicate.
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