I did some studying on the Oberth recently myself, via that link. IIRC, at 120 meters long, it would only make the saucer 2 decks thick, where it looks like it would obviously be about 4. The windows are way out of scale for the ship, or vice versa.
Wizard? Nah. Just an insane, obsessed nerd.
If it was that easy, we'd all be doing it, since you just described pretty much everyone here!Wizard? Nah. Just an insane, obsessed nerd.
I suspect if you told them real reason for your request, they’d be more than happy to oblige. Just send them a link to this thread.Super bummed! I thought I hit the jackpot with another TWO finds in one video, but the clips are such bad quality, are too short, and have a watermark over them. I found the short clips in the middle of a video about...you guessed it...the Los Alamos scientific laboratory, where they were explaining the uses of the facility's Cray-1 supercomputer.
Here's the video, with the computer graphics starting at 8:55:
Here are the graphics I've matched to Trek. The first was seen in both TMP and TWOK, and according to the video is a simulation of airflow in a tornado.
The second is a simulation of two nuclei colliding:
Some of the other simulations look like they may have also been used in the movies, but I've been unable to place any other ones.
I've futilty tried to find full, decent quality clips of those graphics based on what the video says they are, but I've had zero luck. I knew it had to run out sometime! I'm tempted to contact Los Alamos and ask them to send me all their vintage computer graphics...for, erm, education purposes
The film is here (link). but it looks like purchasing it (I assume sans SMTPE timecode, etc.) is a pricy proposition.Super bummed! I thought I hit the jackpot with another TWO finds in one video, but the clips are such bad quality, are too short, and have a watermark over them. I found the short clips in the middle of a video about...you guessed it...the Los Alamos scientific laboratory, where they were explaining the uses of the facility's Cray-1 supercomputer.
Here's the video, with the computer graphics starting at 8:55:
Here are the graphics I've matched to Trek. The first was seen in both TMP and TWOK, and according to the video is a simulation of airflow in a tornado.
The second is a simulation of two nuclei colliding:
Some of the other simulations look like they may have also been used in the movies, but I've been unable to place any other ones.
I've futilty tried to find full, decent quality clips of those graphics based on what the video says they are, but I've had zero luck. I knew it had to run out sometime! I'm tempted to contact Los Alamos and ask them to send me all their vintage computer graphics...for, erm, education purposes
But then again, as I understand it, one would only purchase the edited version of those computer renderings as they appear in this film, complete with annoying transitions, and not the unedited versions as they were created by the Los Alamos scientific laboratory.
Now that’s perfectly usable! How did you erase the watermark? I tried that yesterday with no luck. As good as my hard surface modeling skills are, my video editing skills are in their infancy.But then again, as I understand it, one would only purchase the edited version of those computer renderings as they appear in this film, complete with annoying transitions, and not the unedited versions as they were created by the Los Alamos scientific laboratory.
@Donny, maybe as a temporary placeholder you could work with something like this: [link removed]. Erasing the time code, watermark and titles, scaling it up and making it into a loopable video produces something that's not perfect by any stretch of imagination, but at least it is something.
Whew, I'm glad you find it usable. The watermark is actually still there, I just adjusted the brightness in the area where the watermark graphic is so that it's not as noticeable. The tornado rendering lends itself pretty well to obscuring the watermark as it's so chaotic. The other collision footage is actually a bigger pain in the ass, as the watermark is much more visible, the timecode is right over the graphic and there's so little of the footage that it's hard to create a sensible loop point.
Michael, that's great!!Whew, I'm glad you find it usable. The watermark is actually still there, I just adjusted the brightness in the area where the watermark graphic is so that it's not as noticeable. The tornado rendering lends itself pretty well to obscuring the watermark as it's so chaotic. The other collision footage is actually a bigger pain in the ass, as the watermark is much more visible, the timecode is right over the graphic and there's so little of the footage that it's hard to create a sensible loop point.
I took a stab at it anyway. Here's the result: [link removed]. I basically gave it the boomerang treatment.
You're right, and I apologize for my request for infringement. I should be more sensitive to these things, being an artist whose work has been stolen and reused before. Most of the movies that I've been using so far have been public domain, but this specific one is not. Thank you for pointing this out, @JonnyQuest037.
You know, you are not wrong. I'm sorry that my doing this bothered you, but I can assure you that I did it purely out of enthusiasm for this fan art project. That doesn't make erasing watermarks right, of course, but I still hope you can see the difference between this – contributing to fan art that's done out of love for the subject and as a complete non-profit – and misusing copyrighted material for commercial projects without a license. I would also like to point out that I provided my edits of the clip as a temporary placeholder, which is what I said when I posted the first one. And yes, while you are right that I am a moderator on this board, I'm also just a regular guy who's not infallible.
Am I hearing “commission”? ;-)
