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Spoilers The Gifted - Season 2

At any rate, I thought it was kind of cool when they brought the Morlocks in, but it never occurred to me that they would suffer the same fate as they did in the comics. I imagine this is probably the closest we'll ever get to an adaptation of the old mutant massacre storyline.

I wasn't particularly expecting it, at least not too soon, but I can see the advantage from a budget perspective of killing off most of the characters who need elaborate prosthetic makeup. Not that many of this show's Morlocks were all that inhuman-looking anyway.
 
Has anybody heard what the deal is regarding renewal? I hope this gets a 3rd season.
 
Between the low ratings and Disney gaining all of the X-Men rights, I would be shocked if it gets renewed.

They clearly planned for four seasons but I don't know the likelihood of the show actually getting there.
Why do you think they've planned specifically for four seasons?
 
The episode titles.

Every season 1 episode has a letter X somewhere in the title, and it's capitalized regardless of where it occurs in the word.

In season 2 they're doing the same thing but with the letter M.

X - M - E - N
 
Damn. I can't believe they killed Clarice. She was probably the most well-rounded character of the whole cast. I like to think "She isn't really dead until we see the body" but it seems unlikely that would survive from multiple gunshot wounds and with no one around to treat her wounds.

Well, there's this:

https://ew.com/tv/2019/02/12/the-gifted-blink-sage-death-spoilers/

“It remains to be seen exactly what happens with her. You see she disappears into the sort of vortex of the portals at the end. So there’s more to learn about that, but yeah, that was definitely a bad day for Blink.” - Matt Nix

Though it seems like you would probably need some Legion-style fancy footwork and maybe a couple of names from the movieverse roster to affect the outcome at this point...
 
The episode titles.

Every season 1 episode has a letter X somewhere in the title, and it's capitalized regardless of where it occurs in the word.

In season 2 they're doing the same thing but with the letter M.

X - M - E - N
Ah, right. I forgot about that.

Well, there's this:

https://ew.com/tv/2019/02/12/the-gifted-blink-sage-death-spoilers/

“It remains to be seen exactly what happens with her. You see she disappears into the sort of vortex of the portals at the end. So there’s more to learn about that, but yeah, that was definitely a bad day for Blink.” - Matt Nix

Though it seems like you would probably need some Legion-style fancy footwork and maybe a couple of names from the movieverse roster to affect the outcome at this point...
Crossing my fingers. She's easily my favorite character of the show.
 
I think it's too early to assume that the "X" and "M" titles are meant to be spelling "X-Men." There could be other possible reasons for it -- like, maybe the "M" is for "Magneto," because Lorna has been embracing her father's legacy more this year. We'd need to see what letter the third-season titles emphasized to find out for sure.
 
My dead-X-Man-coming-back-to-life sense is definitely tingling. Good fakeout too, because when they showed her getting shot 3 times last week, it looked pretty final. Of course, there's also a chance that she's at death's door, and will do something to help John and the rest as one last noble act.

Looks like next week is the season finale. With Andy and Lorna back with the Underground, it seems hard to imagine the Inner Circle winning.

But this being the X-Men, if they are planning for another season, you have to imagine that things are going to get even worse for the mutants. Because that's just how mutant stories work.

Interesting argument this week between Lauren and her mother. I mean, the whole point of splitting up was to hope that some of them would get away, but Lauren certainly has the high ground with her mom, especially after hearing what Blink did. Interesting that Reed went farther than Andy too. Of course Andy wanted to kill that guy, but his family was there to stop him.

And then there's good old Jace Turner. As always, wondering if they're going too far, but then after hearing that Officer Wilson was killed by a mutant, he may, as usual, be first in line to kick down any doors next week. Would they really drag his storyline out through a third season, or will he finally get resolution next week?
 
For a moment, I thought they were finally, finally going to have Turner see the light, realize what a monster he's become, and refuse to be a part of it anymore. But instead it was just one more lather-rinse-repeat of Turner making conflicted noises before going along with it anyway. I wish he would just commit to one side or another, even if it's the bad side. He needs to either act on his moral qualms or stop pretending that he has any.

I suppose they're going to have Blink survive by having teleported to some void space or something, as hinted by her line in that flashback about imagining that she could exist in the spaces in between things. But it wasn't at all clear that she fell into her portal at the end last week. It looked more like the portal just closed with her still in the Morlock tunnels, and I figured she'd just bleed out there.
 
We didn't see a body.

On an unrelated note I really hope it turns out in the end that the Frosts have been messing with Reeva for a while. In fact, they should probably be the ones to take her down.
 
Oops, I forgot to watch until this afternoon.

Another solid episode. The show is starting to earn its emotional beats and all of the scenes between Lorna and Andy really meant something. Glad to see a happy reunion (cheesy hero pose at the end aside), right before things get really bad.

Good to see that there's still some hope for Clarice being alive. Fingers crossed.

For a moment, I thought they were finally, finally going to have Turner see the light, realize what a monster he's become, and refuse to be a part of it anymore. But instead it was just one more lather-rinse-repeat of Turner making conflicted noises before going along with it anyway. I wish he would just commit to one side or another, even if it's the bad side. He needs to either act on his moral qualms or stop pretending that he has any.
Ha! You actually thought he would finally see sense after all the shit he's done? Either you haven't been paying attention or you're more optimistic than the rest of us, at least on this front.

But even if he did finally see sense, I wouldn't give a damn because of all of the shit he's done.

On an unrelated note I really hope it turns out in the end that the Frosts have been messing with Reeva for a while. In fact, they should probably be the ones to take her down.
Yeah, I'm still holding onto hope for the Frosts, or at least Esme.
 
Ha! You actually thought he would finally see sense after all the shit he's done? Either you haven't been paying attention or you're more optimistic than the rest of us, at least on this front.

No, I just figure they've been keeping him in a holding pattern until the end of the season when he finally makes a decision one way or the other -- most likely coming to his senses and making a "face turn" so that he can have a redemptive arc in season 3. One of the downsides of modern season-arc storytelling is that some writers just settle for treading water until the big climax and then have everything happen at once, rather than actually coming up with an arc that adequately fills the allotted time. Since this was the penultimate episode, I figured we might finally see his moment of decision here, as we did with Andy. But I guess they're probably saving it for the finale.
 
In the real world, no one has a problem with attacking people called terrorists in their homes and killing their children and wives. In fact, families have been deliberately targeted. Teenage boys are automatically classed as combatants. Nothing with Jace is ever very plausible, but this may be the worst yet. It was good to see Officer Ted go but the notion all the villains deserve to die when they diss the heroes is morally obtuse. Jace is even worse than Officer Ted but he's admired by the show. By the way, Reed should have said to Officer Ted, "Where's your car?" So, yeah, Officer Ted was a righteous kill for mouthing off.

Reed's miraculous recovery from uncontrollable agony leading to uncontrollable destruction as he writhes is miraculously convenient. A close second is Lauren's miraculous recovery in time to avoid the consequences of refusing to split up. I have a sneaking admiration for Rooty-tooty's refusal to admit that surrendering would mean prison. Lauren's refusal to notice they were shot at doesn't show Rooty-tooty was being ruthless, it shows the effort to make Lauren a perfect paragon, pacifist in this case, has devolved into making her stupid. The gate which was locked so anyone could go through it comes third? It is good when the script parts the Red Sea for the heroes.

John can track, but since Clarice is everywhere and nowhere, he can't finish tracking her, which keeps him from moving on to the next target. She's not dead. As to his feelings? It has been a common notion since at least the days of Sense & Sensibility that being uncontrolled doesn't authenticate your feelings (or being controlled means not feeling.) That was a couple centuries ago.

It's still true that the Purifiers don't want separation (especially if it means giving up anything, much less land,) but dead mutants. That's why Nazis and Revisionist Zionists couldn't get very far cooperating, despite some efforts. Same here. The real mutant separatists are the Morlocks, and the massacre of the Morlocks shows how wrong Lorna was when she said the Purifiers and Reeva wanted the same thing. It is still entirely unclear what Ryan gets, incidentally.

The Mutant Underground has been wanting to kill the Inner Circle for quite some time now. It is not clear why Reeva isn't even allowed to oppose this. The Morlocks are a big secret, not competition. So Lorna was entirely wrong about that too.

And in her trifecta of wrong, Lorna seems to think mind-control to get humans to cede territory is a Bad Thing. Mind control over mutants to make them accept a homeland is not even a thing, Bad or Good.

Fortunately, Lorna's real argument against Reeva is Benedict Ryan. Her magnificent indifference to Andy almost led her out the door without even trying. She must not be a vain woman, though, as she never noticed how Andy idolized her, even to the point of wearing black like her. Lorna is supposed to be retroactively guilty about misleading Andy into the Inner Circle. Better yet, Andy's real fury and guilt is about murdering Rebecca. It was a bit funny that Lorna never noticed that Andy saved her life, or that she got both Max and Sage murdered. Killing is only bad when the Bad People do it, in Hollywood at least. For once the political backwardness didn't matter. The scenes with Andy were powerful.

Andy was absolutely correct when he said she saved them all by taking down the plane. Andy was also correct when he talked about being a monster, who didn't belong with the rest. The script had even Andy falsify the incident at the lake, making him say Kyle tried to shoot Lauren. Kyle tried to kill Lauren, and actually succeeded in shooting her. Like Jace shooting John, the only thing is the bullet wasn't enough. The intensity of their rejection at the lake was an expression of their underlying hatred and contempt. And yes, that includes Caitlin. She's like Marcos, her love will not permit any disobedience. Andy comes home to do what she says, or else there's no relationship. It's true this is the same family that murdered Risman Garber (indirectly, thanks to the script.) But Andy is Carrie. You might feel sorry for Carrie, but the satisfying ending is when Carrie dies, a scapegoat for our nasty thoughts. Reed was rather shaken up, enough so he could fake caring about Andy. So Andy comes home. Now, the real problems, about Fenris, start. Andy staying separate from Lauren was the best thing he was doing. Coming home to her is deeply sinister. Her only salvation from the monster is to kill him. It should be this season, but apparently the name of the game in serialized TV is The Art of the Stall. The scenes with Andy were truly excellent. It is kind of sad when writers get themselves so constricted by their political agenda they end up inadvertently giving the best scenes to a minor character, played by a juvenile, no less.

It is a crying shame Andy didn't at least hang around long enough to take down Sentinel Services. That would have been a true feel good moment. The Morlocks' determination to protect Sentinel Services was as detestable as the Mutant Underground's determination to kill mutants upsetting the domestic tranquility.

Reeva, like Pulse, has the ability to interfere with mutant powers. Thus, a Strucker, like Otto Strucker versus Pulse, should be able to resist Reeva's influence. Stephen Moyer is the star. Logically, the MU would want to use Fenris to destroy Innner Circle HQ. Andy's nothing, no matter what Lorna thinks, just as Reeva said. But it's pretty much impossible to figure out what Lauren wants, much less what she might do.

PS When did the show disappear all those humans the Inner Circle worked with everyday? About the same time money stopped being a problem for the Mutant Underground?
 
Oh, yes, forgot: The guy on screen explaining how the pattern of thefts told everyone who looked there were Morlocks (contradicting all the verbal dialogue previously, which is either hanging a lantern or maybe camping it up,) was Chris Claremont, according to imdb.
 
have really enjoyed this conversation; I really can't wait for tonight's episode. Unfortunately I believe it's the last since it hasn't been renewed because of the whole Disney/Marvel thingy. In spite of it's flaws I've really enjoyed this series and am disappointed it won't continue.
 
At this point, it isn't yet known whether The Gifted will be renewed or not. Given its low ratings, near the bottom of the ranking for FOX's current scripted shows, it's not unreasonable to expect it to be cancelled anyway, regardless of the Disney/FOX business, but the decision hasn't actually been made yet.
 
guess I shouldn't give so much heed to internet musings- a couple of comics forums have announced it won't be renewed. CBR I think is the largest but they do a lot of click-baiting
 
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