That depends on what you mean by "you" -- your katra or the vessel holding your katra.Well... You don't actually visit the other side of the galaxy...![]()

That depends on what you mean by "you" -- your katra or the vessel holding your katra.Well... You don't actually visit the other side of the galaxy...![]()
Not sure what difference that makes
We're arguing that it is just as fictional. "Subspace" does not exist and has no real world analogue. And adding "quantum" onto stuff doesn't make it any more real science - it's just a word that sci-fi likes to use (incorrectly) to mean "futuristic". Hence quantum torpedoes. This misuse has even bled back into the real world, so people talk about a "quantum leap forward" in a field; well a quantum leap is one of the smallest movements of an object possible, which isn't at all what they mean.Are you seriously arguing that subspace radio, a hypothetical form of communication not unlike current space radio communication, is in any way similar to just putting a physical chemical network in space?
that depends how Earth-centric UFP science conventions are and how xenobiology develops as soon as extraterrestrial life forms get mixed into the the system.Approach and ask anyone with a British high school level knowledge of biology if you don't want to hear it from me. Giving a fungus an Earth genus makes it an Earth fungus; it means it evolved on solely on Earth, and is related to humans, but not alien. It's secondary school science the show is getting wrong, not anything particularly complicated.
I don't know if DSC ever said "Our story lines and plots must be taken seriously and thus must be more realistic than TOS." Instead, I think they just want to be a modern-looking version of Star Trek told with a 21st-century voice. That 21st-century voice does not necessarily mean "more scientifically realistic plots and story devices."My issue is more one of presentation than of content. For a show that practically shouts "60s style sets and ships would look stupid, no one would believe that silliness in this day and age", and puts some effort into describing the fungal situation, it seems strange to argue for having the science be equally silly as the 60s sets and concepts. Now, I'm not at all arguing against giant space hands*, just that there seems a disconnect between DSC's "we must be taken seriously" and the "just wave your hands, it's sorta like science" aspects of the production.
*Please, more giant space hand type situations!
Yeah, we know that in America, too. So I don't need to hear it from you, a Brit or an American.But, science fiction often uses human nomenclature (be it slang, scientific, English, Latin, Greek or Swahili) for alien plants, animals minerals, so again I'm not really sure why it matters.Approach and ask anyone with a British high school level knowledge of biology if you don't want to hear it from me. Giving a fungus an Earth genus makes it an Earth fungus; it means it evolved solely on Earth, and is related to humans, but not alien. It's secondary school science the show is getting wrong, not anything particularly complicated.
Yeah, we know that in America, too. So I don't need to hear it from you, a Brit or an American.But, science fiction often uses human nomenclature (be it slang, scientific, English, Latin, Greek or Swahili) for alien plants, animals minerals, so again I'm not really sure why it matters.
And where copper-blooded lifeforms can successfully crossbreed with iron-blooded lifeforms who evolved on a completely different planet . . .![]()
Indeed. Star Trek has often operated within a thin frame of scientific plausibility, even for the 60s. The idea that Discovery is somehow more guilty of scientific inaccuracy than other incarnations of Star Trek is laughable to me.I mean, they already had the mirror universe, which immediately precludes scientifically realistic plots (and I'm not talking about the science of parallel universe in general, just the propensity of Star Trek to always find it's way to that particular universe where some things diverged so greatly while so many other things didn't).
Diamond time tacos.Nah. still gibberish.
I mean, they already had the mirror universe, which immediately precludes scientifically realistic plots (and I'm not talking about the science of parallel universe in general, just the propensity of Star Trek to always find its way to that particular universe where some things diverged so greatly while so many other things didn't).
Not if they were transplanted from other worlds. Example: would a human under +/-10% gravity still look fairly human after 5000 years?Gravity is a killer for Star Trek as well - you'd need every single planet to have identical gravity for all of these very similar humanoids. Even a minor variation in gravity would not lead to super-strength but radically different physical forms.
Old Star Trek proverb: "You can't win an argument with a Klingon."Approach and ask anyone with a British high school level knowledge of biology if you don't want to hear it from me. Giving a fungus an Earth genus makes it an Earth fungus; it means it evolved solely on Earth, and is related to humans, but not alien. It's secondary school science the show is getting wrong, not anything particularly complicated.
Caveat-unless you're Data.Old Star Trek proverb: "You can't win an argument with a Klingon."![]()
Not if they were transplanted from other worlds. Example: would a human under +/-10% gravity still look fairly human after 5000 years?
No - partly because changing gravity changes *everything* - air pressure, water boils at a different temperature etc. That's before you get into all the other environment factors - so I wouldn't worry about what humans look like after 5000 years on an alien planet because they'd likely die out pretty quickly.
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