What Has Discovery Added To Star Trek Lore?

Perhaps they gave fans a lot more credit than they should have.

DISCO production: "It's an early version of holographic simulations. Fans are smart, they'll figure it out."
Fans: "CANON VIOLATION!!!!1111"
DISCO production: "Note to self: Make it more obvious to fans via clunky dialogue. Hey Bob, did you already write lines for Pike being weirded out by holographic communications and that he wanted it purged from the Enterprise? Good!"

 

Showing the holographic projection of people in episode "The Seventh" was the closest thing visually I've seen in Enterprise that resembles the holographic communication system apparently used just about everywhere in the Discovery universe. Archer seemed more impressed with crewmen Daniels 31st century technology which seems rather antiquated compared to what we see on Discovery



what we see on Discovery



What we see in Discovery looks acceptable for a reboot genre or for 31st century technology but they explicitly say that it's not either one and yet it's supposed to take place in the 23rd century before TOS takes place.

From a formalism approach it doesn't make sense to make it look this way while not having it either take place in the distant future, making it a reboot, or forgetting about getting too fancy with the effects during this time period. Now the 3D display technology crewmen Daniels had no longer shows the audience that he's from the 31st century when compared to what they're using in Discovery.

 

One criticism I have of Discovery this season is this: they shouldn't be going out of their way to appease those who won't be appeased no matter what they do. Sure, some people will be like, "Okay, I can live with that explanation", but they were never the most vocal critics. The ones who are most vocal, there's nothing you can do about them and nothing they should do.

The series is the series at this point. They made their choices and the time to have decided to do it differently was before they shot a single frame. As it is, this is the situation and at some point they have to decide, "There are fans who are with us, there are fans who aren't, and that's the way it is. February 10th, 2019," to paraphrase Walter Cronkite.

 

I'm okay if they can slip a line or two here and there. So long as DISCOVERY doesn't go overboard like ENTERPRISE's fourth season like the Klingon ridge explanation that required two episodes.

 

What you've shown at the top was Daniels' database that he left behind for Archer. It wasn't supposed to have a super sophisticated display, it was just an encyclopedia of the future. It might even have been purposely dumbed down for Archer's benefit to be less technologically intimidating, and to not give away any advanced technology too early (since he was already handing out information).

This is what Daniel's holotech looks like in his Temporal Observatory.


You're also just judging the devices visually while not taking into account that they have other functions that are vastly more advanced, like the ability to communicate and access constantly changing databases across time and space.

 

I admit I would like to see DSC try to explain this Klingon difference. Not a huge story arc, they could probably just show those other Klingon types without even saying anything at all.

 

This misses the conceit of what Star Trek was developed as and from, that of a future imagined from technological understanding at the time of production. These changes were inevitable.

 

Visually speaking this map is just as impressive


The future people can still travel through time, walk through walls, and have ships bigger on the inside. But visually speaking the 31st century has got nothing on Discovery.

 

Yes, that 5 minutes or so really showed us...very little.

 

Daniel's looks more impressive than spock's.

 

Not on any level, even when you count changes in special effects technology for the productions.

 

Pretty low resolution graphics there. The text is covering the entire screen. It doesn't compare to this:

If you look at the environments they look equally real. The klingons on the discovery holodeck were in the process of being deactivated from being shot probably. The same thing happens on 24th century holodecks

The one that's not constrained within the area of the holo-emitter, a known vulnerability for 24th century holograms. Do they even mention holo emitters on Discovery? Holograms can appear just about anywhere on Discovery it seems like

The one with all of the fancy details on it. TNG one is just a ball with a couple ships on it.

 

So, now we must get a pixel size to prove points?

At some point in time art will yield to reality. The fact that there is the obsession over how technology is presented in the show missed the cultural context of time and pretty much ruins the art.

 

In other episodes the appearances were indicators of technology advancement in time travel episodes.

Yesterday's Enterprise
GARRETT: You must have heard it. From the Klingon outpost, Narendra Three. But you didn't, did you? This Sickbay, I've never seen like it, even on a starbase. And your uniform. What ship is this, Captain?

Don't appearances generally indicate advancement?

 

Ummmnnn.....

Brand new models of this coming out in 2019.

 

SAMSUNG is planning one also...


SO, here we are...
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

"Kirk to Enterprise."

 

I know I'm old school, but I actually miss being able to push the number buttons.
I can't tell ya how many times I've called the wrong person or a stranger, because I didn't realize I had hit the wrong number on the touchscreen.


I have a feeling that peoples are always gonna prefer tactile interaction with devices, even 200 years in the future.

Could be the reason why the Jelly-Bean Buttons were used on the Classic Enterprise.
What if those buttons weren't just pop-up types, what if it was also possible to employ them by pushing up, down, left and right?
Like miniature joysticks.

 

Does the fact that we have simple holograms now mean that reality isn't canon with Star Trek? Maybe we've been rebooted.

 

I also prefer tactile. I learned how to type in school. I don't need to look at the keyboard at all. But, if we replaced it with a touch screen, I'd be a slow poke, poking my way through, looking up-and-down, back-and-forth between the touch screen "keyboard" and the monitor. I'd hate it.

The world is a continuity error!