Alien 5: An Open Message About Newt, Hicks, and Bishop

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by JWPlatt, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. Beagleman

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    I enjoyed District 9 and Chappie, Elysium was meh at best. I never really believed the studio would ever greenlight this weird fannish project.
     
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    Maybe Blokamps film wouldn't have been great, but I like very few of Scotts. Prometheus isn't one of them and I'm not hopeful about the new one...
     
  3. JD

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    I really enjoyed the two Blomkamp movies I've seen, Chappie and District 9, but I'm not too disappointed to see Alien 5 die. It could have been interesting, but at this point Ridely Scott seems to have some very specific ideas for the franchise, and I'd rather see where those go than see the massive retcon that was going to be 5.
    EDIT: Wow, just realized that I posted a totally contradictory post right after the announcement. Guess I've changed my mind since then.
     
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  5. Reverend

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    I don't want to be a naysayer, but five offhand words at the end of a red carpet interview do not a living project make. Cameron may be interested in getting it moving forwards, but Blomkamp has probably moved on to other projects (the equally dubious Robocop Re-Sequel IIRC) so it may no longer even be possible.
     
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    RoboCop Returns (which has a story and screenplay by the same guys that wrote both Verhoeven's original and Verhoeven's Total Recall) is already greenlit and Blomkamp's next project. He won't be working on it forever. Just long enough for the Disney/Fox purchase to complete. If Disney then wants to (depending on how RoboCop Returns does with audiences and critics) revive Blomkamp's Alien III-2 with Cameron producing, I'm all for it.

    It's not like Alien3 and Alien: Resurrection will cease to exist. Prometheus and Alien: Covenant overwrote the continuity of both Alien vs Predator movies, but they still exist for people to enjoy them. None of the post-Cameron movies have been my cup of tea, but I feel bad for those that liked Scott's prequels and won't get any closure on that front. The Alien3 and/or Resurrection fans at least received closure.
     
  7. Reverend

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    Hey look, I'm not against the project on principle, quite the opposite. I'm just saying this isn't confirmation of anything beyond Cameron says he's "working on it".
    Which could mean active negotiations with the studio and director, or it could mean an assistant has been told to put in a phone call to an agent to arrange a brunch sometime around July or August. It's too early to tell.
    Also, Cameron doesn't exactly have a good track record when it comes to this sort of thing.
     
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  8. STEPhon IT

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    Can't these studios, in particular Disney, stop dipping into these dried up wells and start making an effort to create something new??? I think movie goers has to stop spending their hard earned money on soft remake drivel, like Star Wars, Terminator just for Disney and the like to stop these uninspiring mashups.
     
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  9. Reverend

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    First off, it's "show business", not "show artistic originality." Right now, cinema attendance is in steap decline, which means fewer pieces of a rapidly shrinking pie to go around. That inherently makes any large budget movie a significant financial risk. So studios attempt to mitigate that risk as much as possible, mostly by making sure they know from the outset that what their selling is in demand. Nostalgia is a known quantity, while original IP is unknown and unproven. That's the kind of thing that makes shareholders twitchy.

    Personally, I don't really mind it at all. The real innovation these days is in TV and on-demand where the costs and thus risks are lower, viewership is way the hell up and competition is fierce.
     
  10. Marsden

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    There's a new Robocop coming up?
     
  11. Terok Nor

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    I won't miss Ridley Scott's Prometheus saga that's for sure.

    The way I see it, unless Ripley dies in Blomkamp's movie then the only film erased is Alien 3 since Resurrection takes place 200 years later and states Ripley died on the prison planet. Alien 3 could just be a bad dream.
     
  12. JD

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    I like the idea of this, but I'm not going to believe it's really happening until I see a trailer.
    If they are bringing back Ripley, Hicks, and Newt then I guess we'll be getting a 32 year time gap. I wonder what they'll have been up to for all that time?
    According to Wikipedia Carrie Henn, who played Newt, is a teacher, so it's questionable if she'd be willing to come back.
     
  13. STEPhon IT

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    Well, I definitely won't miss Covenant but I liked Prometheus; I thought Scott could've taken me in a new world of monsters in the Alien Universe. Potential were bound.
     
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    Watching the 60 hours of extras in the Alien Anthology Box Set (I'm a nerd, sue me) I realized that the creators put a huge emphasis on having each movie be different from the previous, otherwise they just wouldn't make it. With that in mind, I don't really understand what processed them to make Covenant, which was a pretty by the numbers movie...
     
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    Then it wouldn't really be an Aliens movie, would it? If you don't have the ALIENS of the franchise, wouldn't it just be something else? And if you did have the Aliens... Oh, wait, Aliens Vs. Predator. Bleh.

    I'm good with the franchise ending with Aliens.
     
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    I actually liked Alien Covenant but thought Prometheus was mediocre. I actually really like Alien 3, but I'd be fine with a potential sequel ignoring it.
     
  17. STEPhon IT

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    I was appalled that David was the creator of the Alien, and besides that once again the chestbuster timetable accelerated like a videogame. I thought the Alien or Xenomorph was too cg for my taste, I was hoping for a man in suit with a pinch of cgi.
     
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    Did David create them, or RE-create them?

    Didn't Prometheus show the xeno in the cathedral?
     
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    The novelization addresses this iirc. There's a fossilized egg and David says it was created by the Engineers. You can see a bit of it in the released film but the film doesn't explain what it is.
     
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  20. STEPhon IT

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    It did but in Covenant, David spoke to a man who had similar character traits to Elizabeth Shaw/Noomi Rapace, and had him faced hugged, tells all about how his creator was wrong that robots can't create and it was his journey to prove this theory wrong. The man of faith looks around the cavern seeing an illustrated diary of David's experiments on creating the Alien... Shaw was one of the guinea pigs.